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I mean, could he not just have taken the license plate number then sent agents to go knock on her door later? This is shoplifting, not armed robbery.
Isn't it kinda stupid of the police officer to put himself in that dangerous position. He could just as well have let her go and find her later or follow her. Trying to stop a car by standing in front of it is imo. just stupid and unprofessional.
This exactly how it works in normal countries. She was not robing a bank she was just shop lifting. You get the license plates and invite her to court some time later.
Can't speak for anywhere else, but can speak for personal experience, here in Italy "take the license plate" or "get in the police car and follow her" would be our procedure. She has not pulled out a weapon, and law enforcement is not supposed to escalate anything, ever. (Exceptions might apply, poorly trained officers exists). Even if she pulled a gun, probably we'd just try to evacuate everyone in the area and call for reinforcements before thinking of pulling out our firearms.
On average we get 5 police deaths in a year out of about 300-350 thousands agents, so I guess it works well enough.
(and yes, I do realize that in US there's a lot of armed and trigger happy civilians, but that's just another issue to solve. If a civilian needs a gun for self protection , there's something really really wrong with society in my opinion)
Nor would any competent force give an ultimatum of "stop or die" over a trivial crime. Most countries would get in their car and try to follow safely, if that wasn't possible you run the plates and send a summons. A hand should never be near a gun in this situation.
There's no defending this.
Take a look in the mirror mate, you're no font of sense yourself.
You need to check yourself.
They stop high-speed chases all the time because it's getting too dangerous. And some of them have done way worse than shoplifting...
That is literally the standard procedure for dealing with shoplifters.
And also this woman wasn't the shoplifter.
The cop deliberately walked in front of her car and pointed a gun at her. She panicked. I'd probably panic too if someone pointed a gun at me. Granted, I probably wouldn't have drove forward, but it was entirely possible for the cop to not have walked in front of her car, for him not to have pulled a gun. It seems like him pulling the gun is what caused this.
Flooring it at someone, yes. Slowly moving forward and turning away, not so much.
So maybe cops should be smart and not jump in front of/on top of moving cars. But then again, we already know they aren't hired for being smart.
Yeah probably not the best to drive at police. Amazed that even needs to be said and isn't obvious to most people
You say that in a thread about a woman murdered by an officer in cold blood. Wow.
Except that guy isn't dead. The woman is. The cop has plenty of opportunities to do a really big part of his job, de-escalate, rather than do the opposite, position himself in front of her vehicle and immediately point a gun at her. He went right for the death threat and almost immediately delivered.
Driving a car without plates is extremely common in this area. It has been ever since they suspended registration requirements during Covid. I see multiple cars without plates every time I go for a drive.
This area doesn't have tolls or red light cameras.
Dealers don't submit paperwork for you to get plates unless you pay extra for the service. Otherwise you get a 45 day temporary tag.
If you buy used in a private sale, then you get nothing. You have to go buy plates. There is no transfer of plates between private parties in Ohio when doing a private sale.
Was there any evidence that the car didn't have plates