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Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?
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What the hell is hexbear? This is like the 3rd time I've seen it mentioned today
Rowdy and very active left-leaning instance which recently rejoined the rest of lemmy. They tend to be very vocal in calling out racism, sexism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry, which has made certain users very angry. On the other hand, some of them seem to be very tolerant of certain authoritarian countries, which makes a certain other group of users very uncomfortable.
Left leaning? Every post I saw from them before finally filtering the instance was heavily right leaning and filled with everything you just claimed they are against.
The left right thing sometimes feel more like a circle and if center was at one end of the circle then tankies and the alt-right would be at the other end pretty to close to one another. They both want to own the people that are closer to center, they both have a love affair with Russia, they both deny genocides, they both believe in authoritarianism...
Yup, horseshoe theory. At a certain point, it's hard to tell authoritarians apart. I.e. why do you hate LGBT folks?
Different justifications, same net result. So on LGBT issues, I can't tell Stalin and Hitler apart. The same goes for a surprising number of other policies.
Yes, it's Kremlin/CCP propaganda. Both use social media to divide democracies. Divide and conquer on social media.
Do you have any links to prove this right leaning behavior?
No, because I filtered the entire instance after the 4th "OwN duh LiBs" post.
They consider liberals too right wing, that's why they want to own them iirc
This is correct. They're way too the left of US liberals and are generally sick of the domination US liberals have in US politics. (The same can be said of the UK.)
FWIW i'm mostly with them on this. I'm an anarchist and also far left, though i didn't join their instance when i came to lemmy (obviously).
Well can you at least explain what was right wing about what you saw?
Bros unironically don't think liberals are right wing. What do you think they'll have to say? Right wing is when you shout "Death to Israel?"
Lol what are you even trying to say? The incoherence is funny considering you’re from a literature instance
Yes, they're CCP LLMs and useful idiots emphasizing social tension in democratic countries in order to cause instability.
If you think calling out racism, sexism or homophobia is 'emphasizing social tension in democratic countries', then you should take a long, hard look at what sort of person you are. And who cares who they are; they are doing good work making bigots shuts up.
Do you actually think that's what I was saying?
I completely support calling those thing out in an unbiased and constructive way. Hexbear does neither, it's intent is to create division, there is no shared vision of harmony.
To me it seems more like creative interpretation of everything as those things if it doesn't fit with their groupthink. It's not "calling out" if they're abusing it as a general purpose weapon, that's just bullying.
Which ones?
China, mostly. But some of them do shill for russia too.
And North Korea...
But why? What's the motivation?
USA bad = anti-USA good
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Doesn't help that leftist intellectuals don't do their damn research and blame NATO for the Ukraine war. Popular intellectuals really sound dumb the second they step out of field. Like Richard Dawkins not understanding transgender people and trying to frame it as "just asking question."
"Communism, like Soviet Russia" has three common responses.
1: Denying the country was communist, saying communism has never been tried.
2: Calling it a failure case, like how liberal democracies also suffer dictatorship.
3: "That was totally communism and that means it was awesome!"
/r/EnoughLibertarianSpam, /r/Politics, /r/ChapoTrapHouse.
China is a "successful" example of a "communist" state and for young people attracted to communism that's kinda all they've got. Not a good approach imo, China fucking sucks.
China is NOT communist.
Eh, Cuba is a decent example, but they never seem to talk about it too much. China is absolutely not communist by any means. They can call it anything they want, but they have the 2nd most amount of billionaires in the world right behind the US. They are capitalist at this point with a few communist policies sprinkled in their government processes.
It's where the far right go to play dress up as LGBT and call everyone else a nazi/be ruzzian apologists and blame the failings of the communist ecosphere on white western liberals.
It's basically the opposite of a sincere environment.
Yes it should be renamed to ConcernTrolling101
Threatening to show your private parts to a person you don't know because they made a forum comment you didn't agree with is the most right wing shit I've ever seen.
I rest my case
Well your point feels right-wing to me. I don't know how to break it to you.
Why are you deliberately lying, while knowing you're lying?
How do you define far right? I usually think of it as pro authoritarian. And that seems to be commonly true on hexbear. Though they don't necessarily acknowledge that authoritarian regimes like Russia and North Korea are authoritarian.
Far right, as opposed to neoliberal, means fascist to me, where fascists:
Hold reactionary social views — are racist and sexist and homophobic, etc.
Support capitalism and despise socialists — see what happens to socialists under every fascist regime in human history. Hitler was in bed with big business, and some of the first people he put in concentration camps were socialists, communists, and labor organizers. In Indonesia, more than a million communists were murdered with US backing, a mass killing detailed in The Jakarta Method and a documentary called The Act of Killing. Socialists were also slaughtered in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, Argentina, and Bolivia. This is incidentally why the US so often supports fascist regimes — they kill socialists.
And yes, are authoritarian, but being authoritarian is not what makes them fascist. What makes them fascist is that they use authoritarianism in service of the above positions.
That's what deliberately means...
I wrote it like that for emphasis because I was mad
My big comment debunking yours is gone and there's nothing in the modlog, what the hell? It's even gone from my comment history. It had votes, it was definitely successfully posted and appeared for a while
*Found it in the lemmy.world modlog, which makes no sense, because I am not a lemmy.world user and this is not a lemmy.world thread, so they shouldn't have the ability to remove a comment from my comment history
I happened to still have it open in a tab I never refreshed, here's what it said:
I realize this won't matter, because you have a mental wall up against recognizing that anyone might have reasons to attack your beliefs from the left, but5 day old thread where all of hexbear agrees they hate trump
older thread where all of hexbear celebrates trump getting covid
old thread where all of hexbear celebrates Rush Limbaugh's death
I'm basically picking threads at random because the entire site is full of posts and comments expressing the direst hatred for right-wingers and fascists.
Some of the top comments from the first link:
https://hexbear.net/comment/3839449
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https://hexbear.net/comment/3843515
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https://hexbear.net/comment/3840542