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submitted 1 year ago by queermunist@lemmy.ml to c/usa@lemmy.ml

I want to read you two recent headlines from New York magazine. They were written within a week of each other. The first is “A.O.C. Is Just a Regular Old Democrat Now,” and that accuses you of compromising on your progressive ideals as you work within the party system. And then came the rebuttal, which was “The ‘A.O.C. Left’ Has Achieved Plenty,” which argued that your wing has pushed the party leftward. Why do you think your role is still being parsed this way by Democrats and by those on the left?

Part of it is because we haven’t really had a political presence like this in the United States before. I think very often you had this consummate insider that was bankrolled by corporate money and advancing this, frankly, very neoliberal agenda. And those were the people that we were used to seeing in power. And so I think over time there’s been an inherent association between power, ascent and quote-unquote selling out.

I often say to my grass-roots companions that the left, for a very long time, was not used to having power in the United States. And so when we encounter power, we’re so bewildered by it —

Yes, the reason we are suspicious of you is because we're too fucking stupid to understand. Thank you boss queen!!!

Moving your ideas internationally, even if they might conflict with the foreign policy of the leader of your own party?

I wouldn’t necessarily characterize my foreign policy goals as oppositional to the president’s or to the United States. I am a member of Congress. I have sworn an oath to this country, and I take that oath very seriously.

That says it all, doesn't it?

Do you feel more comfortable in the Democratic Party now? The way you described it initially was fraught. They rejected you, and you were definitely trying to change the party. You have said you’ve pushed the party leftward. Many would agree. So is it OK to be a regular Democrat now?

The activist in me always seeks to agitate for more. I think despite there being progress, many people are still woefully underserved in this country. But the Democratic Party has changed dramatically in the last five years. Even if you just look at the numbers, I believe it’s something around 50 percent of House Democrats have been elected since 2018. And so what is considered center and moderate now is dramatically different than what it was five years ago.

No no wait, that says it all.

Being center and moderate is good now folks!

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[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

.... thats ideal though.., why did you say this like it's some sort of insult? Party constituents should want to work for the benefit of the party. And the party should want to work for the people. Her not having extravagant goals (unlike republicans) means she is free to serve the people.

You've gotten so twisted in these modern Cults of Personality that you've clearly forgotten a government is supposed to support the people, not blindly serve said politician's own lofty goals for personal sucess.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The people don't vote Democrat because they love it. They do it because they have no choice, because the other party is actual demons.

[-] asteroidnova@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Nobody votes Democrat because there is no Democrat Party. You can do better.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wut

EDIT Ooh, you're being a pedant. Okay honey, people like me vote for Democrats because the Democratic Party is the only alternative to the fucking fascist monsters in the other party that want to murder me for being trans.

Fuckin liberals. Instead of addressing what I have to say you want to turn this into a grammar leason to make some smug point.

[-] asteroidnova@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a liberal, honeybunch. Nor am I the person you were talking to so I don't really care to engage with your comment any more than to correct your word usage. You should probably relax a little.

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