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Vaush, a leftist streamer. He's very direct and sometimes abrasive, so he's often in the centre of leftist online drama.
He uses slurs, does harassment campaigns against leftist people of color and is overall a giant chump that is far more of a reactionary than any leftist. He's the "leftist" YouTuber for people who never had their Ben Shapiro/Sargon phase and don't understand what's wrong with that style of content.
Going a bit too far to call him more of a reactionary than a leftist.
Doesn't know shit about theory or what he actually means by socialism, and has all this in his history. Not everything in that post is bad, but a lot of it is. Vaush is a reactionary sex pest that deserves no quarter in this community.
Again you're going too far, you can criticize someone without acting like they've never read anything about socialism and is sexually abusive to anyone he meets.
If you actually look up the context to most of this stuff, which you forced me to do, it's really not as yikesy as you would think.
https://hexbear.net/comment/1447833
Watch the stream clips. I even have one posted on my profile. He has no place here. He simps for the CIA, he isn't a leftist.
I don't think stream clips that are cut to show the opposite of the opinion he was expressing are helpful, he's done plenty of actual bad shit like sexual harassment and saying slurs that we can criticize him for.
Taking someone saying, "you can come up with a hypothetical situation where [bad thing] would result in more good than harm, but it's still bad because of x, y, and z reasons." And cutting it to them saying "[bad thing] would result in more good than harm" just gives people ground to defend him.
I call him out as a sex pest in other comments.
Also, CIA intervention has pretty much never made anything better. Afghanistan was actually doing pretty well before the CIA militarized them against the communists.
Is this about him calling out Dr. Flowers for not being willing to denounce ethnic cleansing and getting back-up from actual land back activists for that.
Wait a second... this should be it.
F.d. signifier
Using some other poc as an example of why he he isn't a piece of shit implies that you are okay with tokenism.
What. It's merely one of the bigger drama I'm aware of, if you don't want people to guess then don't talk in riddles are we in kindergarten here.
I don't think Vaush has particular beef with F.D. short of F.D. uncritically backing Flowers. Point-wise disagreement but I do see Vaush mentioning F.D. in a neutral to positive light quite regularly.
Also speaking about F.D., his "debate bro critical takedown" video was puerile, churlish, and definitely one-sided.
"Don't talk in riddles"
"Churlish"
God you're so far up your own ass defending some reactionary streamer that is literally just Sargon of Akkad for libs. Manage to type 3 sentences that say nothing. Vaush has a toxic ass fanbase that he sicks on people. When Chapo fans do that shit, we defederate their instance. But when a racist white sex pest lib does it, we have people defending him. What a joke. Those are two links btw
I mean, if there was a vaush lemmy instance sicking on people in the fediverse I'm sure that would get defederated very quickly too.
This is him being homophobic and transphobic as fuck
He's part of LGBT you muppet and yes the online discourse is cancerous. Log off. Go outside. Talk to real-world people.
Quite litterly in the wiki they just posted:
And are they implying that you cannot criticize communitys your a part of otherwise you are anti that community?
Thats because she was okay with white people being killed???
Ben Shapiro amd Vaush are actually best friends. They havr been photographed together. Vaush also oddly gets along suspiciously well with Tim Pool. I mean really, really well. You wouldn't want a guy like that running your bolshevik revolution.
Can't tell if this is a bit or not because Vaush's constant need to "own the right" makes him consistently look stupid just like them
Can you share evidence/examples? I've only seen a couple of his segments on both people, but none seemed positive in any way.
True, not a fan of this.
I haven't seen an example of this. Care to share one? Not saying it doesn't happen - but e.g. the "Professor Flowers" stuff is most definitely not an example of this.
I don't really see that, some people are far more reactionary.
He unironically believes horses have more sexual marketplace value than men
The average man brings in what, like 3-4k$ per month? Whereas a horse costs hundreds, if not thousands, per month? Yet some people want horses? He might be onto something 🤔
I mean have you seen the going rates of horse semen recently??? Definitely rather sell that than my boyfriend's.
Hmmm.
Well it is infinitely easier to get man dick.