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[-] LeylaaLovee 18 points 1 year ago

He uses slurs, does harassment campaigns against leftist people of color and is overall a giant chump that is far more of a reactionary than any leftist. He's the "leftist" YouTuber for people who never had their Ben Shapiro/Sargon phase and don't understand what's wrong with that style of content.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Going a bit too far to call him more of a reactionary than a leftist.

[-] LeylaaLovee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doesn't know shit about theory or what he actually means by socialism, and has all this in his history. Not everything in that post is bad, but a lot of it is. Vaush is a reactionary sex pest that deserves no quarter in this community.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Again you're going too far, you can criticize someone without acting like they've never read anything about socialism and is sexually abusive to anyone he meets.

If you actually look up the context to most of this stuff, which you forced me to do, it's really not as yikesy as you would think.

[-] LeylaaLovee 2 points 1 year ago

https://hexbear.net/comment/1447833

Watch the stream clips. I even have one posted on my profile. He has no place here. He simps for the CIA, he isn't a leftist.

[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think stream clips that are cut to show the opposite of the opinion he was expressing are helpful, he's done plenty of actual bad shit like sexual harassment and saying slurs that we can criticize him for.

Taking someone saying, "you can come up with a hypothetical situation where [bad thing] would result in more good than harm, but it's still bad because of x, y, and z reasons." And cutting it to them saying "[bad thing] would result in more good than harm" just gives people ground to defend him.

[-] LeylaaLovee 3 points 1 year ago

I call him out as a sex pest in other comments.

Also, CIA intervention has pretty much never made anything better. Afghanistan was actually doing pretty well before the CIA militarized them against the communists.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

does harassment campaigns against leftist people of color

Is this about him calling out Dr. Flowers for not being willing to denounce ethnic cleansing and getting back-up from actual land back activists for that.

Wait a second... this should be it.

[-] LeylaaLovee 3 points 1 year ago

F.d. signifier

Using some other poc as an example of why he he isn't a piece of shit implies that you are okay with tokenism.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

What. It's merely one of the bigger drama I'm aware of, if you don't want people to guess then don't talk in riddles are we in kindergarten here.

I don't think Vaush has particular beef with F.D. short of F.D. uncritically backing Flowers. Point-wise disagreement but I do see Vaush mentioning F.D. in a neutral to positive light quite regularly.

Also speaking about F.D., his "debate bro critical takedown" video was puerile, churlish, and definitely one-sided.

[-] LeylaaLovee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Don't talk in riddles"

"Churlish"

God you're so far up your own ass defending some reactionary streamer that is literally just Sargon of Akkad for libs. Manage to type 3 sentences that say nothing. Vaush has a toxic ass fanbase that he sicks on people. When Chapo fans do that shit, we defederate their instance. But when a racist white sex pest lib does it, we have people defending him. What a joke. Those are two links btw

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I mean, if there was a vaush lemmy instance sicking on people in the fediverse I'm sure that would get defederated very quickly too.

[-] LeylaaLovee 3 points 1 year ago
[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

He's part of LGBT you muppet and yes the online discourse is cancerous. Log off. Go outside. Talk to real-world people.

[-] PhatInferno@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Quite litterly in the wiki they just posted:

And are they implying that you cannot criticize communitys your a part of otherwise you are anti that community?

[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thats because she was okay with white people being killed???

[-] Franzia 6 points 1 year ago

Ben Shapiro amd Vaush are actually best friends. They havr been photographed together. Vaush also oddly gets along suspiciously well with Tim Pool. I mean really, really well. You wouldn't want a guy like that running your bolshevik revolution.

[-] LeylaaLovee 6 points 1 year ago

Can't tell if this is a bit or not because Vaush's constant need to "own the right" makes him consistently look stupid just like them

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Can you share evidence/examples? I've only seen a couple of his segments on both people, but none seemed positive in any way.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He uses slurs

True, not a fan of this.

does harassment campaigns against leftist people of color

I haven't seen an example of this. Care to share one? Not saying it doesn't happen - but e.g. the "Professor Flowers" stuff is most definitely not an example of this.

is overall a giant chump that is far more of a reactionary than any leftist

I don't really see that, some people are far more reactionary.

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