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Some politicians are so fearful of former President Donald Trump retaking the White House that “they don’t really want to tell the full truth,” West said. “[Biden has] created the best economy that we can get. Is this the best that we can get? You don’t tell that lie to the people just for Biden to win,” West said in a clip played on CNN Sunday.

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[-] ThwaitesAwaits@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Everyone who disagrees with me is a paid shill, sure sounds like some rightwing cope.

The centrist liberals pathological inability to tolerate even small amounts valid and reasonable criticism is part of why democrats keep losing elections.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Where's your criticism of Cornel and his unpaid taxes and child support?

[-] ThwaitesAwaits@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Strawmanning your opponents is on page 2 of the rightwing playbook.

Can you at least try to counter Dr. West's arguments? If you can't, then just admit it. There's no shame in admitting weakness.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I'm not strawmanning Cornel, he has nearly half a million dollars in unpaid child support. Also plenty of other folks are taking on that aspect of his candidacy, pretending he's not deeply in debt is not taking his candidacy seriously and I don't think anyone who simply ignores the financial trouble he's in should be regarded as serious.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

I don’t think anyone who simply ignores the financial trouble he’s in should be regarded as serious.

poisoning the well

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

he has nearly half a million dollars in unpaid child support.

that's a lie

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

have you considered reading articles before you link them?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What part of that article says he doesn't owe half a million dollars?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

the amount isn't the dispute. it's the source of the debt.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wait, you're calling it a lie in huge letters because the person said half a million in child support and not half a million in child support and taxes? That seems needlessly nitpicky and also needlessly aggressive.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

considering the tax debt is 90% of that amount, i'd say the article itself is being dishonest.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure owing tens of thousands in child support is the glowing endorsement of Cornel West you think it is.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

his kids are all grown, so i think it's actually moot.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why is it moot that he neglected his children just because they're adults? I'd say that neglect says a lot about his character.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

he didn't neglect his children.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He absolutely did. He didn't pay child support. That's neglect.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

you can call it neglect, but i'd look to the people involved, not some court in racist usa to tell me whether they were neglected.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you just blamed someone for their son's death. I don't think you get to have this conversation anymore.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

no, i didn't, but toodaloo

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think you get to have this conversation anymore.

i don't let fascists tell me what i'm allowed to talk about.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And now you're namecalling. Block time. I do not tolerate Reddit behavior.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

i love the lemmy block system

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

as far as i know none of his kids have died or agreed to be a gun-for-hire for his employers, so west is still a far better father than biden in my opinion.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whataboutism is also not a good endorsement of a neglectful parent. And blaming Biden for his son's death is sick.

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

State sanctioned media is always the most trustworthy...right?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

cornel west doesn't need to pay taxes or child support until we dismantle the empire.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

what is legitimate about this criticism? it's ineffectual mud slinging: anyone who agrees with what cornel west says will not think this is a meaningful criticism at all.

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