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this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2023
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People need to understand what lemmy is. This is not monolithic social media like facebook or reddit. People need to understand that, or the mismatch between how they think it works and how it actually works is going to cause a lot of mental anguish that could be avoided.
As they say in software development, 8 hours of debugging can save you from one hour of reading the manual.
I’m reading this on kbin(new transplant from an old Reddit account) and I have little idea what this is about lol
Here’s an analogy, hope it helps:
Kbin.social and beehaw.org are like really advanced email servers (e.g. outlook.com, gmail.com)
The content you’re seeing on kbin is like viewing an email sent from another server, in the case of this thread you’re getting content from beehaw.org.
These aren’t just normal emails, they’re super advanced emails with comments, replies, categories, votes etc.
The content is downloaded to the kbin servers for your viewing pleasure, and you can send an ‘email’ back to beehaw by engaging in their posts/communities like you’re doing now. That will send what you’ve done back to beehaw so it’s all synced up for their users.
If beehaw ever goes down/gets unlinked from kbin you’ll still have the old ‘emails’ (content) but you won’t be able to engage with them anymore. Like if someone deleted their email account it doesn’t delete all the emails they sent to other people.
I'm new here and not up on the history, but I have a couple of questions:
When an instance defederates, does it disconnect from all other instances? Or can the administrators choose which other instances they no longer want to sync up with?
In the case of content remaining on my local instance that originated on another instance that has since defederated, would I be able to tell? Would it be possible for Lemmy to add a visual indicator that this content had become disconnected from its originating instance?
Sure, and I should've been more clear and said people need to understand what the Fediverse is.
This is, ultimately, about what federation means and how this platform operates. Its deficiencies, and the way things work currently to address those deficiencies. What I have posted is just as true for kbin as it is for lemmy.
Personally, with a background in software/programming, but little to no knowledge about how ActivityPub and the interactions between federated instances work, I really appreciate this post and the discussions. Learned a lot today!
Thanks, I really appreciate that. Education was the foremost goal of this post, and I'm glad some of that may have come through