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Ofc it's not all men, but it's enough men that make everyone's lives harder. So instead of arguing "not all" maybe focus on the some that are the cause of the problem.
I feel like the primary complaint here is that the parent commenters very much want to focus on the some that are the cause of the problem, rather than simply stating that men are problematic.
Yup. If men as a group policed their own there would be a change. But as it stands they don't seem to want to do that all the time because it's easier to just let the bad ones slide through.
What's there to police? It's not like most aggressors are openly grabbing people in their genitals for all to see. These people know that they are wrong and so they hide it. What am I, as a man against this behaviour, supposed to do about other men?
When you hear men joke about what women they're gonna try to f'k, let them know how shitty that is.
When you hear men make sexist jokes, let them know how shitty that is.
When you hear men talk about their wives as somehow less than, let them know how shitty that is.
And if you ever think any of those things in your own mind, remind yourself how shitty that is.
What if you don’t have shitty guy friends who say shitty sexist things?
Then you probably live on the moon.
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean in this context.
Are you saying that since these were co-workers and not family members that means the woman is lying?
This is actually a great idea! To make things simple perhaps we can give these policing men like.. some form of identification, like a badge or a uniform so people know who to trust. This is the game changer we needed.
I love people that demand respect but can't even give it.