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To my dying day I will never understand how anyone can tolerate this pathological liar.
There are three factors that work for him.
They’re too embarrassed by this point to admit they made a mistake (and they see what happens to people like Chris Christie) so they stay with the cult.
It’s also a Reverse Cargo Cult:
I feel like the thing that's missing about a reverse cargo cult is that a sincere attempt to sell the lie comes first. Once that fails, as it inevitably will (you can only be so insistent in telling people that they're not actually hungry and cold before they call you out on it), that's when the lie about how smart they are to spot the lie and the external comparisons begin.
Your summation was solid, but the straw airstrip quote might be the worst, watery-yet-needlessly-convoluted analogy I have ever heard.
That you've ever heard??? I found it somewhat useful.
A lot of people think that scams are always about a conman trying to convince them that they're legit. Some scams are, but many take the form of the conman signalling that he actually is running a scam, he's scamming someone you don't like, and he's going to let you in on the scam if you help him.
The beauty of this kind of scam is the mark isn't going to check on the conman's credentials, because the whole point is that he's a shady guy that's running a scam, and the mark thinks they're going to get a share in the loot.
The famous Nigerian Prince scam is like this. It's obvious that the transaction isn't legit, the "Prince" would just use legal means to get the gold out of the country if it were. No need for an internet stranger for a legitimate transfer of gold. It's obvious that the Prince is doing something shady, but he's going to cut you in on the profits of the shady activity if you help him.
Many people on the right feel like Trump is scamming the libs, scamming the federal government, scamming news media. But not scamming them, because they're in on the scam! Pitiful rubes...
Exactly. The real scam is making the marks think they're in on the con.
The Republican Party doesn't claim to not make mistakes, they do claim that admitting a mistake would in and of itself, be a mistake.
To be embarrassed, they'd have to have a sense of shame or pride.
He says the terrible shit they are thinking out loud and belittles anyone who disagrees. They are living vicariously through him.
It’s called a cult.
Cults can be good or bad.
This is fascism.
We need to stop pretending it's not.
I do not believe there's such a thing as a good cult. Can you provide an example?
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I see, I'm working with the definition of cult as a high control group. Vice is going with the "new or spurious religion" definition.
Fascist cult.
Not a liar, a bullshitter.
Lying requires some respect for the truth. It implies you are trying to deceive by denying or obscuring the actual facts of the matter, but lying still involves trying to convince someone that your alternative story is true.
Trump and Co. are just straight up bullshitters. Reality is completely irrelevant, and they just make up whatever sounds good on the fly with zero regard for whether it's even consistent with what they said 10 minutes ago.
The maddening part with bullshitters is you can't even debate or reason with them because the truth literally doesn't matter to them or their audience.
remember Dick Cheney sneering at the "reality-based community" as the lies he used to justify the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan started coming to light? This contempt for what's real is embedded in Republican DNA.
"He's not lying to me, he's lying to them (the media, libs, etc.)"
Like, imagine you gave up on anything ever getting better and just wanted to fling shit at the people you blame for your misery. There is no bigger piece of shit to fling than Donald Trump.
Brand new (very accurate) sentence.
Is there a theory on how he's the true lizard man come to sow dissent? Can we start one? He doesn't even know our terms and idioms, dead giveaway.
That's what I heard. That's what people are saying.
The best people are saying it.
Explains so much when you look at it
The whole of the GQP made it their playbook
Or understand his incoherent rants.