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[-] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Kleinfelters is a thing. Some cis women have a Y chromosome and don't even know it until they happen to get a DNA test.

There's simply no good way to use strict definitions of sex to invalidate trans people without excluding some cis people as well.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

yeah there are folks with medical conditions. that is true. this is one thing I fear about the ruckus we have around this nowadays. that it will essentially out them. Honestly I did not make up the cis word so im not sure if it applies. its again another recent type of thing.

[-] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I wouldn't say with 100% conviction that 'cis' definitely applies to people with Klinefelter's. I actually used it without much consideration in this instance. While on one hand it is a medical condition similar to being trans, I don't know if it necessarily creates dysphoria that prompts transition. My impression is that Klinefelter's doesn't effect a person's alignment with their assigned at birth gender.

I could be completely wrong though, I don't know much about the experience of having Klinefelter's, it's just my suspicion is that it seems to be in the same family as being trans, but doesn't necessarily effect a person's neurological make-up the way being trans does, just some of their other sex characteristics.

[-] glacier 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Klinefelter syndrome occurs when a person who is assigned male at birth is born with an extra x chromosome. Most people with the condition are cisgender boys or men.

Being trans is not a medical condition, although many trans people have gender dysphoria, which is psychological distress a person may have due to identifying with a different gender than the one that they were assigned at birth.

[-] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Huh? Being trans is absolutely a medical condition. Many people die without appropriate treatment. Trans people are treated seriously by medical professionals because it's recognized as a legitimate medical need that cannot be resolved through therapy or socialization/conversion therapy. It's unclear what you're saying here, that it's a just social figment or something?

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

cannot be resolved through therapy or socialization/conversion therapy

I'd go further, and say that anything that needs "just" therapy, is also a medical condition.

The mentality of "as long as it lets you work, it doesn't matter whether you suffer or not" is pretty inhumane, IMHO.

[-] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

In a sense, yeah. Though things like trauma and PTSD are caused by experiences, where as being trans is probably more akin to being intersex. But yeah, no argument that mental health should be treated as seriously as physical health. Many societies fall short in treating either as particularly important.

[-] glacier 1 points 1 year ago

Being trans itself is not a medical condition. It just means that someone identifies with a gender that is different than the one that was assigned at birth. There isn't any medical diagnosis or treatment required for someone to be considered a trans person. Many trans people do have gender dysphoria and that is what we receive treatment for.

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