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Inside the AI Porn Marketplace Where Everything and Everyone Is for Sale
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Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.
Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we've ever seen about society, is not going to happen.
True, but people already do 80% of that - I don't think the stigma attached to "AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests" is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you're doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.
Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don't think you have to worry about society telling you that you can't have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don't do it in your parents living room this time.
See? This is what I mean.
I don't follow at all. When you do sexual activities in a public area you are making other people part of the act, without their consent. Do what you want with consenting people.
If you don't want people to kink shame don't expose them to your kink. I am not knocking on doors telling people what they should or should not do, I am asking not to be part of their activities. The vast majority of people have my attitude towards this.
We're talking about AI porn in this thread. I'm not sure why you're going off on a rant about exhibitionism, or why you're doing it here in a reply to my comment.
Your comment was in reply to a comment talking about sex robots. Your comment was calling that comment out for being discriminatory against people who use sex robots openly. It was all very easy to follow as an observer. Conversations wander sometimes.
I mean it’s just common sense not to do these things in your mother’s living room my guy.
Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.
Why learn to fuck people when you can just buy The Wanker 9000™?
Better wait for the 9001, you don't want to be a first adopter on this sort of thing.
Instructions unclear, dick stuck in toaster.
Send help.
"We're sorry to announce a product recall due to a low to moderate chance of your device performing an unexpected castration."
Meh. If someone wants to opt out they pretty much are going to do it. Besides would you rather deal with them? Imagine if everyone you were around didn't have a means to entertain themselves at all times. They would be engaged, they would create drama, they would tell other people what they thought of them.
Sometimes in industrial equipment we put in random alarms to be triggered so the people who are supposed to stand there have to do something vs wandering around causing trouble. Especially in union plants.
Well, to rule out the "misanthropic" part one doesn't really need to have a fulfilling sex life, just meet a few people (suppose, women) who'd make them like humanity again.
About disengaged and disinterested - it's more about engagement and interest being hard.
Yeah let’s just give young men sex robots and make them even more detached from community and relationships
I do kind of wonder what the end-game is in terms of fertility rates in society if we can manufacture ever-more-perfect simulations of sex.
The Amish might still be around, but...
Except instead they will treat ai girls as filthy as they want and then expect all women to act like that. Then not understand why they don't........ yeah pretty sure that's what's going to happen.
Just like video games taught me to shoot everything
No it's much more like the way porn already messes up a lot of men's perception of women and sex
Makes sense. I grew up playing videogames where I would shot stuff that was in my way. That is why in real life I use a gun to get thru traffic. I also played a game for a while where I rode on the back of a lizard and ate mushrooms to grow larger. Which is pretty much my typical weekday.
For you see I have not hit the level of mental development of most 3 year olds and can not separate our playtime from the real world. Just like the hypothetical people in your example.
Now if you excuse me I plan to make bricks vanish by arranging them in a straight line wall-to-wall in my house.
Without question. The ability to have sex with something isn't going to prevent them from being socially dysfunctional and would, if anything, make it noticeably worse. You're getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex. They're just easier to avoid addressing now and your dolls don't demand basic respect.
I don't think I'd come out too much against it, personally. People got biological imperatives, I'm not gonna protest against dildos. But the financial and mental health crises both remain and can't be circumvented like that.
I'm already having the mental health crisis, would be nice to have the immersive VR porn to go with it tbh. People in this thread are mostly talking about incels but, like, there's many men with horrible social issues who are self aware. I don't have a relationship, I think I would be a terrible partner and me being single is for the best. I still am lonely sometimes, but accepting it and moving on helps a lot. It still would be nice to have something like this because I would be able to have some companionship without having to be in someone else's life.
Before anyone tells me to go to therapy, I had a few sessions and then my therapist went on long term sick leave and I don't think I have the strength to try again. It hurts less to just accept and live with my problems.
You just described Japan
Why would being sexually fulfilled make men more shitty to women? Perhaps aloof, but that is different from hateful.
You got downvoted but this is exactly how porn affects many men already
I'd push back on that and say that's fear mongering. The scenario you're describing MAY occur IF "they" don't witness social interactions with IRL girls at all, and that includes video/virtual meetups, video recordings of IRL girls interacting etc.
"They" would have to have never seen a female person in any media other than their AI sexbots, which I find incredibly unlikely that this could become the norm.
Yeah, it's a great idea, if these people don't, like, interact with the world writ large
The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.
I for one welcome our new sexbot overlords.
I don't see how. It is just porn but more specific. You could get the same results before this but with a tiny bit more work. It should have as much impact on humanity as did on-demand streaming did. On the individual level this could maybe put an end to all the not-so-ethically produced porn.
I'm cool with this, we need a lot fewer humans anyway and particularly so in countries rich enough for people to be able to afford VR sex rigs.
Impacting the plebeian workforce in a way that's felt even harder than today's inability to afford kids? Yeah, this is gonna be mocked and regulated out of existence for sure.
It'll look like moral reasoning, but the fewer workers exist, the more bargaining power all of them have against the rich. See the scarcity of laborers during the black plague triggering the end of feudalism.
It will already start dropping in our lifetime without any way to reverse it. Even African fertility rates are dropping
The complete opposite is true. That would be a death of dispar filled distopia. Do we not have enough virgins jacking to internet porn all day with crippling depression.
People need relationships not better internet porn
The birth rate is low enough already
Ahhh, you watched the Red Dwarf episode “Better than Life”
Welp we all know you're eating steak in the Matrix.
AI porn is interesting for its extreme detail in systems that were not quite designed for it, and what has been achieved with extremely small model sizes. Like a typical chat model of what seems like an equivalent quality as far as accurate detail comprehension is two to three times larger. It is hard to objectively compare these two, but this is my intuitive/highly speculative opinion.
That said, in is hilarious how much some model checkpoints can troll someone. Let's just say, after my casual experiments to explore how LoRAs and other modifications and enhancements work, there would be many PTSD experiences for anyone that tries this. You might just find yourself reorienting your preferences every time you blink.
Also, if the option is available, you run the serious risk of it becoming an alternative lifestyle, especially amongst those that pursue an academic path and must stay free from distraction. If this is experienced at a younger age, it may remain as a permanent choice. It objectifies relationships and that may prove difficult to change.
I think you will find the only barrier to relationships is really the person in question's state of mind and willingness to put in effort. If a skateboard has aspirations to board a hundred million dollar super yacht, that's a mental health issue. However, outside of mismanaged birth policies where the sexes are disproportionately represented, I'm a strong believer that there is a skateboard for every skateboard, and at least a dock and dingy for every super yacht.
wtf did I just read.
Depends if you are into tech, skateboarding, or yachting