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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago

For me, I would personally make the adjustment:

chatgpt ---> NOTHING

I'd rather go my whole life with people ridiculing me for not using genAI then hand over my status as a person to any form of genAI.

[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago

yeah, imo search engines have gone completely to shit. and sometimes AI is literally the only way to find certain things without wasting a lot of time. but i do try to use it as little as possible

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'd rather waste time than water

[-] chrisashtear@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Im fine with local only, but theres so many people that just vomit out exactly what claude says.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Or googles AI overview.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Do you feel that way about the other algorithms you do use? Nearly all code we do use was compiled and the compiler makes it's own decisions on how to convert abstract code into assembly or binary. Do you have anything against machines making decisions on that conversion?

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Compilers ain't a problem for me. Compilers aren't enabling people to claim writing they never wrote as their own so they can sell "books". Compliers aren't generating false information on purpose in order to trick me because it was built to be a gaslighting yes man¹. Compilers aren't deleting anything from certain files to whole directories¹ off my system unless I tell them to.

I don't have to worry about a compiler trying to steal all my data¹ in order to please braindead C-suites trying to replace all humans with clankers. So I have zero issues with a good genAI free compiler.

¹ unless they have been compromised/my system has been infected

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I mean it does allow people to claim code they didn't necessarily write is there's. It seems that your issues aren't to do with LLMs fundamentally but specific use cases some individuals have chosen. Like you don't fundamentally have an issue with the algorithm itself.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

I will concede on the algorithm. Can't get too mad at advanced maths, but I can get mad at the lazy people using it for nefarious purposes or just because they're lazy.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean may as well say you're mad at the internet because people use it for nefarious purposes as well. This is usually what I find about all these debates around AI and LLMs or NNs. It's more so people being legitimately upset at actions taken by some individuals or companies more so than any hatred for the technology itself but they conflate the two effortlessly. Like we're aware of how strange it sounds in different cases when that's done but for some reason with AI most don't see this issue in their argument.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Not everyone use llm's for programming.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

I have a feeling you didn't understand the question I was asking. Ilms are just one type of algorithm and data structure. There's other algorithms nearly all programers use to compile symbolic code Into assembly or machine code (binary), they're called compilers. Anyone who isn't writing assembly or machine code directly is likely using a compiler.

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Your question is confusing to me, I know what compilers are but I'm not sure how that is super related to llm's. I was just saying that people use llm's for reasons aside from generating code.

ooh wait nevermind, I realise what you meant now. Your comparing compilers to llm's since they both are algorithms that turn an input into an output. Is this what you meant?

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I got the comparison from Linus Torvalds talk but yes and depending on the compiler and it's use the output might not be so deterministic. More accurate to the point I'm actually making is is that these are all algorithms and the issues people have with AI isn't anything about the algorithms or the technology itself but the ways in which some people and companies are using it. May as well say you hate the internet because some people and some companies are using it to do very harmful things.

Here's another

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago

Interesting, I can see how the idea that llm's are just another layer of abstraction like compilers. Although this doesn't really justify using them and that unfunny joke of "I bet your code was written by a compiler" just doesn't really make sense. It's not like we should start writing all our code in python, for example.

[-] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

What would justify using them? For many I talk to they have an irrational hatred because of how some people and companies have used them so now it's like a prejudice. That is not matter what they dislike neural networks

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

What would justify using them?

Many things, whatever reason a person that finds them useful has. A layer of abstraction just isn't really a justification.

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