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[-] Eideen@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago

Immich is a better alternative to Google Photo

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

I recently made the jump. It's crazy how much effort goes into optimising Nextcloud it still remains the most demanding thing on your server and your sanity.

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Hot take. Nextcloud is hot garbage. If you want file sync use Seafile. So so so so much faster and more resource efficient. For the rest of next cloud functionality just use a tool specific to that.

Nextcloud is still tied to the old php/fpm model. There are better approaches now days. Hell even owncloud is rewriting away from the php/fpm approach.

[-] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 1 points 21 hours ago

Or Syncthing, if you don't need virtual folders or selective sync it's so quick and lightweight.

[-] echedeylr 1 points 2 days ago

The problem is not php-fpm, the problem is when people who perform as SysAdmin dont know how to tweak it properly.

I deploy Nextcloud instances for production environments. :/

[-] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Why would I need to tweak it when what I ran was provided by Nextcloud as a complete package?

I've also never used a commercial Nextcloud host that has acceptable performance.

If they are providing their AIO Nextcloud unoptimized that's even more of a reason to dislike it.

[-] echedeylr 1 points 16 hours ago

the AIO is not aimed for production in intensive environments. also what do you mean "commercial Nextcloud host". i never implied you to use this???

[-] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

More just saying that I've never had a nextcloud instance perform well, regardless of where or how it's hosted.

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This is exactly what I did. I replaced it with a Immich, a webdav client, and an xmpp server (prosody). I only needed online storage for phone photo access/backup and syncing my keepass DB and contacts. I set these apps up once and now I don't need to touch them.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

Nextcloud is great but too often it's compared to Google Drive instead of Google Workspace (as seen here). If all you need is cloud storage, use Owncloud (Nextcloud upstream) or any of a thousand similar tools (I use Cloudreve). If you need a full office suite, use Nextcloud.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I am just about to start experimenting with opencloud.eu. It is another developer revolt fork of Opencloud (this time their infinite scale project) so it is supposed to be a lightweight single binary that uses a real filesystem and no database at all. Lacks all the add ons of nextcloud, buy I am tired of maintaining it.

Anyone try it?

[-] T4V0@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yep, though I have a bug in my use case from a older version, and I still didn’t have the time to try the new stable version. I also translated the Docker compose for the project and extensions into .container files. In the newer version it seems they managed to remove a sidecar container.

So far, it runs on a VPS with a 4-core and 8GB of RAM. On a first run, after upgrading, it needed swap as the system started freezing and the OOM killer stopped the program, zram was enough in my case.

Besides the main container — and the sidecar — I used the Collabora container, LDAP for user management, Keycloak for auth, full Tika for OCR search — modified for my language — and Radicale. Mind you, most probably want the main container and the online office container, be it EuroOffice, Collabora or OnlyOffice.

Here is the memory usage and CPU usage on standby from podman stats:

NAME                       MEM USAGE / LIMIT  CPU %
systemd-tika               175MB / 8.054GB    0.68%
caddy                      43.35MB / 8.054GB  0.24%
systemd-ldap               67.08MB / 8.054GB  0.01%
radicale                   2.425MB / 8.054GB  0.00%
syncthing                  29.97MB / 8.054GB  0.21%
systemd-keycloak-postgres  41.12MB / 8.054GB  0.06%
systemd-keycloak           663.4MB / 8.054GB  0.75%
systemd-collabora          42.02MB / 8.054GB  0.27%
systemd-opencloud          883.4MB / 8.054GB  7.31%
systemd-collaboration      57.71MB / 8.054GB  0.31%
[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Awesome. Thank you for the detailed answer.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

Setup is incredibly bad. They have a very very strict set of parameters to be able to log in at all. I have pretty much given up OK it as there is no way for me to log in for the first time with default admin credentials. It simply doesn't accept the states environment variables on docker and you get 1 attempt to log in before it gets stuck in a loop and you have to purge the image and every volume and file to get a second attempt.

[-] myszka@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

uses a real filesystem and no database at all

Sounds very promising! That's what has always pushed me off Nextcloud.

[-] TheSealStartedIt@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

I recommend ente.io

[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago

tried it, but i couldnt figure out how to add my existing photos in the way i had organised them: /year/event/photo.jpeg and nextcloud made it pretty easy

[-] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 1 points 20 hours ago

Hmm the exif data for date taken should organize them chronologically without needing the folders to import.

[-] Eideen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Both Google Photo and Immich, treat all images individually. And assume that any grouping is done a Tag/ album level. Regardless of file name or hierarchy.

If you what to show your “event” in the UI, you would need to run a onetime script and amend album with the name of parent folder.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Immich is for phones only apparently.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

The web client is full featured.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean it's for the photos from phones. It doesn't seem to be very well suited to manage a photo archive from an actual camera (there's dozens of us!).

[-] Eideen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I have my home video also, in Immich.

isn't immich for photos not images?

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