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Aren't they all proper nouns and therefore supposed to not need the definite article?

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[-] ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Preface: I'm not a christian. And, of the religion teachers I've had, at least one had certain *ehum* interesting interpretations about the books, so my understanding of the lore may contain a bit of non-canon fanfiction. (I'm not from a very religious area, but she was a bit weird)

If I've understood correctly, "the devil" is more of a title, but not exactly? At least, "devil" should only refer to a single character at a time, and it should be obvious which one.

with Her

Is "her" the correct pronoun? A lot of art depicts Lucifer as pretty masculine, so perhaps "he"? Though, I'd probably use the neutral "they".
I'm not sure if this is from the official canon, but one religion teacher taught that angels were genderless, and the "weird" one taught that they were both male and female, possessing the parts from both sexes at the same time.

Angels have been depicted in many ways, but I think that I like the weird teacher's futanari version the most.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

IIRC angels as genderless comes from the scholastics and St. Thomas Aquinas. They tried to reason out (guess, basically) a bunch of things about angels, and came up with them being detached, bodyless consciousnesses that exist at or around a point.

Hebrew, Greek and Latin all have grammatical gender, which must complicate any readings from the bible on the matter. Angels are described as either indistinguishable from humans or completely monstrous - in the case of the ophanim, more abstract or machine-like than animal, even. The fluffy winged person idea came after, and almost certainly was borrowed from Germanic and/or Persian paganism.

I wouldn't be surprised if the weird teacher wasn't totally alone in that cracked interpretation, but only because medieval monks can be weird, as well.

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

my understanding of the lore may contain a bit of non-canon fanfiction

The catholic canon is but the biggest canon, and all of it is fanfiction. In fact, religious people are the most hardcore fans of them all!

If anything, your interpretation is likely less off-the-rails than theirs.

[-] nerdhd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, that guy is definitely tripping.

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