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[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 133 points 3 weeks ago

He is either not a US American, or the "Never Forget" nation forgot to properly teach him.

[-] Asetru@feddit.org 126 points 3 weeks ago

I live in one of those "never forget" nations that promised to never forget something... but it seems that we, too, managed to forget.

[-] rotkehle@feddit.org 36 points 3 weeks ago

I feel you so much right now.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 21 points 3 weeks ago

I guess we are all in the same boat... Errr land.

[-] decolo@piefed.social 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, you live in Boaterland? Do you know Jimmy on the east side?

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

My parents were boat mormons, so what do you think? Of course I do know my brother Jimmy.... I hate him.

[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Psssssst....

Damit besagte Personengruppen es vergessen könnten, mĂŒssten die es erstmal verstehen. Das wĂŒrde Bildung erfordern und da wird dann schwierig.... Wir haben kein Geld fĂŒr Bildung. Das haben die Reichen.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It is more that the rich ensured that education focused primarily on the aesthetic horrors of fascism rather than its material origin. The impetus for bonapartist tendencies was never removed so it eventually returned as conditions necessitated. The rich could not admit it was the system they uphold and benefit from that gave rise to fascism without endangering their positions and implicating themselves.

[-] AnotherUsername@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I want to upvote the "aesthetic horrors" but it's not "the rich". It's just human stupidity and laziness in trying to educate children.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

you would be shocked to find out who writes and owns your textbook and course curriculums. Idk what textbooks are like in Europe exactly but american education is effectively propaganda when it comes to historical subjects. Tbh though, whether these things are owned and written by your government or private interests they are influenced by bourgeois politics and the historical perspective it creates. All of our retellings of history are influenced by the dominant ideology of their era.

[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Germany with AfD becoming the largest individual party?

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Carl@anarchist.nexus 56 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught. A lot of students treat history as irrelevant. It doesn’t help that a lot of public school history teachers are the equivalent of a dad watching World War 2 documentaries. Lots of them basically teach history so they can be a coach instead. Because public schools don’t hire independent coaches, and require all of them to teach something. So the coaches tend to fall into teaching history, because it’s easier than learning to teach calculus or chemistry.

[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught

see: forgot to properly teach him.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

but you can’t make it drink

For that, you're gonna need a hose.

[-] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say they made the attempt, but if he didn't listen that much, the problem is them passing him, not attempting to teach him.

[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

that is definitely a problem of the US education system. The "no child left behind" policy is absolute garbage.

[-] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

COMPLETELY agreed. No Child Left Behind made WAY too many fucking idiots think that they're up to standard of "functioning human being", when that is demonstrably not the case.

He doesn’t look that young. I can’t imagine somehow missing the post 9/11 fallout and the war in the Middle East. The 20 year anniversary of it wasn’t as extravagant as the 10 year. But as an American it was kinda hard to ignore.

If he’s from outside the us and like just turned 18 maybe. But like how does one even miss all of the memes about it? I guess even those have died down too.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

He doesn’t look that young.

Eh, 9/11 was ~25 years ago. And if we assume that a child under the age of, say, 5 wouldn't be interested in such things and wouldn't be exposed to it much, especially if not in the US ... then someone could feasibly be up to 30 years old right now and have been too young to notice or care when 9/11 happened.

And I don't know about your age standards ... but this guy looks like he could easily be under 30.

I’m very squarely in that age bracket and it was hard to ignore 9/11 if you were at all exposed to any media. I can’t imagine anyone 25-30 managing to entirely ignore 9/11 even without teachers talking about it. Maybe someone with the absolute peak of sheltering could ignore it. But outside of that I can’t imagine anyone in the US 25-30 having no clue.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

i'd say anyone under 35 wasn't really aware for it.

[-] anguo@piefed.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

35 might be an exaggeration, they would have been around 9 years old, old enough to remember something.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, this is definitely wrong. My younger brothers are significantly younger than 35 right now, and they still remember where they were when it happened.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

🙄 Your math is bad. Read what they said closer

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Anyone who is older than 25 existed when the towers fell, which is significantly younger than 35. Whether a kid much younger than 11 can remember where he was when it happened is another question, but the math is correct.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 3 weeks ago

History teachers in grade school seem to be either great or terrible. Nothing in between.

I can see someone born around then or after not understanding the scope of the event. I can think of things that happened when I was born or just a kid where even knowing about it later it just seems like something in a book. You can't know what a world was like before an event if you weren't aware of it.

How he escaped ever seeing more about it online is another thing, but then again I see lots of reaction videos, many that are probably legit, of people who never heard or saw things, even if they've heard references to it. It's yet another XKCD Ten Thousand moment.

On a wide side note, I had an amazing Ancient History instructor in college. First day he told us not to bother getting the text for the class, we're not using it. He took us on an incredible ride.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ooh can confirm: Our coach taught us that nazi germany was communist and north korea killed more people than any civilization in history.

[-] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Some people believe in anything..

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's so stupid. Everybody knows that Nazi Germany was socialist!

[-] Jiggle_Physics@quokk.au 5 points 3 weeks ago

When I was in school all the coaches taught physical education

[-] Klear@piefed.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Or he just didn’t pay attention in class when it was taught.

Fuck you, I'm not old!

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

What the hell is this coach thing?! No wonder some American schools have a teaching problem đŸ˜±, it's already hard to get good teachers but letting mr run after the ball teach history...

Baffled.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

When I was in schools, American history was Pilgrims, the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, The Great Depression, and WWI. Then it was summer. We might have a school assembly in February to talk about MLK.

[-] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Did you finish school prior to 2001? Cuz, I mean, that's everything I learned in school too at that time.

But my daughter is 13 now, and I can confirm that she has been formerly told about 9/11. I don't think with as much detail as she will learn in her during her high school tenure, but she at least knows about it.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Oh yeah. I was in high school when 9/11 happened.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

My son asked me if I learned about 9/11 in school 
 and I was like uh yes, in a way.

(I was sitting in my psych class watching it happen live)

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yep. And with each successively later era in history being more and more rushed because the history teacher was always behind schedule and the big standardized tests at the end of the year ate up a lot of time.

And then next year, in the next history class, you start over at Pilgrims again! Only difference is that now there's a little bit more detail and you're expected to write an essay about it instead of just answering some multiple choice questions.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

o no I 💀 forgor 🗿

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 weeks ago

Homeschooled...

[-] greenbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

Many people are just alien tourists

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Well, the number of people talking about the 3 planes getting hijacked on another thread makes me think we've forgotten at least a little bit.

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