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In which ways did you find Nord worse? I found Nord faster than Mullvad and better at spoofing my location in different countries for streaming services.
Proton VPN is probably the first other one that springs to mind as offering privacy comparable to Mullvad. Its CEO was criticized last year for making approving comments about some things Trump was doing in the USA, but it was mostly about opportunities to challenge big tech companies, and he claimed not to be a MAGA supporter in general. There was no evidence, as far as I know, of him donating to right-wing organizations.
Proton vpn is pretty good, except on Linux where the client is horrendous. The Killswitch is very unreliable there. When it fails, it sends your machine right back to the internet instead of blocking the connection completely like it's supposed to.
I haven't found an alternative that works well for me in Linux other than mullvad unfortunately. And I really don't want to give them my money.
I sent proton a nastygram but they don't seem to care about the Linux client at all.
Also both their gui and cli apps have dependencies on Gnome, and installing gnome fucked up my remote login setup. It's insane to me that even the cli relies on gnomes keychain
I have a paid proton email level, which gives me (I think?) one active VPN tunnel to use.
I tried it out and it works fine with the standard openvpn client on linux. I always set up my own killswitch, which is easy with ufw. You block all traffic except allow the VPN interface and IP. Bulletproof.
But what I really want is wireguard! I didn't know I wanted it, til I tried it. It's a lot nicer IMO than openvpn.
Hmm, maybe I can try the ufw approach then. Wish I knew about that before I installed gnome. Thanks for the tip.
YW!
Here's what mine looks like, but I'm redacting the tunnel IPs and port numbers. You might have to add an allow for DNS in there depending on your VPN,
I don't know much about these things, but if Proton uses standard protocols it ought to be possible to connect without using their own client.
It can be done with wireguard but that doesn't solve the killswitch issue. I'd have to write my own script or something.
The speed was the main thing for me with Nord. Very slow a lot of the time. And I didn't like the weird/scammy feeling renewal prices. I found Mulvad much smoother in general. Nord might be better now, though. That was my experience from about 7 years ago