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[-] fizzle@quokk.au 70 points 1 week ago

What ?

Your shit is totally fucked already but I'm struggling to see a point at which some fediverse user having a gun would have averted the current predicament of US non-fascist citizens.

There are so many alternatives to the word "armed" in this sentence that would be a lot more effective: educated, informed, active... and so on.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Guns don't give much if any political power on their own, but if the hard groundwork of building up a community with strong mutual aid is done beforehand, they can be one part of protecting that community. ICE and cops are a lot less likely to mess around with visibly armed groups.

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Oh, but guns do give 100% political power. It's the ability to do violence that guarantees your ability to live as you please or not. You just seldom see it in your safe little daily life. And the examples of that are all around you in this world.

It's the violence, by people willing to do violence or threaten violence, that allows you the right to vote or not. It is the violence or threat that allows you to marry who you want, live where you want, and enjoy the freedoms that you have.

You have two choices. You can either go to those people who are willing to do violence and beg for your scraps of rights, or you can be willing to do violence, and possibly die, back to those people who would take your rights away.

Which one you choose depends on just how desperate you are. Currently you are hoping that someone else will do the violence for you and then give you what you want. Your little life is still too safe and cozy to make you choose your path yet.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You may want to watch the video I linked to, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. :)

[-] madeinthebackseat@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Not disagreeing, but there's a good chance somebody will snipe an ice agent and it will set the civil war in motion.

I don't want it, but it's starting to seem like that's the path we've taken.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

Someone probably already has but the media won't show it, lest ICE be seen as fragile.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah, that's certainly a possibility. My feeling is that you're not going to get a nice crisp revolution / civil war.

I think for that to happen you need to have a lot more people desperate enough to lay down their lives to win some kind of future for the people they care about.

It seems more likely you'll end up with an armed resistance movement.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago

You keep saying "you," where are you from?

Yeah, that’s certainly a possibility. My feeling is that you’re not going to get a nice crisp revolution / civil war.

I think for that to happen you need to have a lot more people desperate enough to lay down their lives to win some kind of future for the people they care about.

It seems more likely you’ll end up with an armed resistance movement.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 6 days ago
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