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US boxer Hannah Rapp struck and killed by driver while cycling, police say
(www.theguardian.com)
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It all hinges on the intent to kill. I'm sure he now would say he didn't intend to kill. just to hit them and teach them to stay off the road. They have enough to charge them with both. And let a jury sort it out.
Read the article, it has his excuse, which explains the manslaughter reason.
If there’s skid marks, he better get upgraded charges. He has a history of this shit too:
Saying you intended to hit someone with a motor vehicle is saying to intended to kill them, unless you're provably insane and don't understand that hitting someone is likely to kill.
Even a legally "insane" defendant would most often be found to have met the "knowing" criteria; the bar is that of foresight or knowledge (including constructed knowledge in some jurisdictions) of "merely" physical harm that is likely to cause grievous injury or death. No metaphysics required.
For example, acting to cause the stoppage of breath (that "happened" to result in death) is an automatic pass for murder in many common law countries.
I expect to see them say bike riding is a form of protest, and he was afraid. 😆
Agreed, intent is hard to prove. That's why the law also says, "knowingly." He definitely knew he could kill someone by hitting them with his car.
The man had priors for reckless driving, according to the article. And a bunch of other things.
That right there is intent to commit "an act dangerous to human life" under the Texas murder statute quoted above.
So when I shot my ex in the spine, it wasn't murder. I was only trying to paralyze them.
That 'or knowingly' closes the door on that hinge.
ianal, but I don't think they could be charged with both murder and manslaughter. Wouldn't that violate double jeopardy? Otherwise there would be absurdities where people get charged with the whole spectrum of criminal intent just to see what sticks. (Which does totally happen anyway, when they can get away with it.)