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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Every single middle-eastern bigot I seen says "these are sexual perversion invented and pushed by the west to corrupt your generation" meanwhile studying middle-eastern history always goes something like

"Despite objections from the religious class, the sultans traditionally kept a harem of young men that would be dressed in feminine clothes and made to dance, homoerotic paintings of even earlier homoerotic poems became more and more popular over certain eras, and also gay bathouses regularly showed up in tax docments, until late 19th century when westernization..."

Tap for example wikipedia articles.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Iran

Many of the famous love stories celebrated by these poets were between kings and their male servants or slaves. Sometimes, the beloved was the possession of a more powerful individual. Outside of royal courts, homosexuality and homoerotic expressions were accepted in various public settings, including monasteries, seminaries, taverns, military camps, bathhouses, and coffee houses. During the early Safavid era, male houses of prostitution were legally recognized and even paid taxes.

A shift in the view of same-sex relation emerged during the nineteenth century. European

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_and_gender_minorities_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

Nev'îzâde Atâyî's manuscript Hamse, which contains several accounts of moral tales with the final chapter detailing a tale of same-sex male lovers.Concepts such as gay, lesbian or transgender did not exist in the Ottoman era. Homosexuality was de jure governed by a blend of Qanun (sultanic law) and Islamic religious laws, which translated to negative legalistic perspectives, but also lenient-to-nonexistent enforcement. Therefore, negative perspectives often did not lead to legal sanctions, with rare exceptions. Public norms exhibited fluid gender expressions (particularly for younger males), and attitudes toward same-sex relationships were diverse, often categorized by age and expected roles.Literature and art flourished as significant mediums for discussing gender and sexuality, with Ottoman poets openly exploring same-sex love in the arts until the 19th century, when westernization led to the stigmazitation of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Egypt

Volney, a Frenchman who traveled through Egypt in the eighteenth century the later said of Egypt's ruling caste, the Mamluks: "They are, above all, addicted to that abominable wickedness which was at all times the vice of the Greeks ... It is difficult to account for this taste, when we consider that they all have women, unless we suppose they seek in one sex that poignancy of refusal which they do not permit the other." The practice described by Volney as "the vice of the Greeks" is known as pederasty, and this was a visible and tolerated expression of homosexual behaviors in both medieval Egypt and the historical Eastern Mediterranean. The introduction of Islam into the fold did not adversely impact this practice in the general public. In the Egyptian context, it was considered natural for older men to gaze upon younger men seen as desirable and beautiful, with some consideration given to their age, though not always. This attraction to male youth was viewed as natural and compatible with traditional Muslim gender roles; in that regard, pederasty was as natural as heterosexuality

Criminal sanctions against gay and bisexual men tended to arise not from the penal code itself, but from a supplemental law, enacted in 1961, to combat prostitution.The law against prostitution also bans "debauchery", even if the act did not involve trafficking or prostitution.Egyptian courts interpreted the ban on debauchery to criminalize homosexual relations between consenting adults. Repeat offenders of the law can face even harsher punishment for what the law views as "habitual debauchery".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Tunisia

From the end of the 18th century to the beginning of the 20th century, despite facing ongoing stigmatization, gay men managed to have social roles in Tunisia similar to those in the rest of the Arab Muslim world. Specifically, they served as intermediaries between masculine and feminine spaces in wedding celebrations, were invited to men's homes in the presence of their wives, and were permitted to enter women's private spaces in a similar manner to blind people. Homosexual relationships were common in the Tunisian royal court and among the aristocratic families, particularly during the reign of the Hafsid dynasty (1229-1574) when, according to documentation, large numbers of "effeminate" men offered their companionship to court men, presenting themselves as singers and dancers.During the rule of the Husainid dynasty, Bey Muhammad III as-Sadiq was open about his intimate relationship with his vizier Mustapha Ben Ismail.For the middle and poor classes, meetings took place in all possible private and public places, such as bathhouses, barber shops, zawiyas, but especially places accessible to travelers such as fondouks, hammams, and pensions. The

Article 230, criminalizing homosexuality, first appeared in the Penal Code of 1913, which was inspired by the French Penal Code of 1810 in terms of both "structure" and "values"; despite this, the French Penal Code did not criminalize sodomy. This Article, among others, was the work of a commission created for the codification of Tunisian laws, by the Resident-General René Millet, in September 1896. This commission was made up of eight members, which by 1912 consisted of six Frenchmen and two Tunisians; Hanafi judge Mahmoud Ben Mahmoud, and Maliki judge Mohamed Kassar.

[-] architectonas@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

I can recommend reading Foucault's The History Of Sexuality. He explains how gender categories serve the exercise of power upon humans. This is particularly interesting given how important self-definition is in queer community.

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