cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/politicalmemes/p/843651/valid-point
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Uhm... on top of not having my phone as my single payment method... where should I carry my id and driver's license and medical card if not in the wallet? Should I carry them loose in the pocket? Or in my bag? Why? That's so unconvenient and in the long term ends up damaging them.
I barely keep my phone on me, period. I hate the thing.
I have a job that prohibits me from having a phone during working hours. It broke me of my dependency and now ive notice people getting irritated if i dont respond in minutes. Some days, they'll just have to wait til 5 until I can check it again.
But it's also made me so much less attached. I regularly dont have it on me
It's my companion for the restroom. If you text me any other time, it's going to be at least 5 minutes before I notice.
What is your secret? The doom rectangle cannot be evaded…
I just hate being bothered. Thats pretty much my entire secret. When I first got a smartphone I cracked the screen chucking it in the next room because the damn thing wouldnt stop buzzing.
So, Gen z just like doesn't carry those or will have maybe one at a time if they have to just hanging loose. Yeah, it's weird.
Gen z here, I do use a wallet but many people use these sticky wallets that you slap on the back of your phone case to hold their cards.
I don't use them because 1. what if something slips out somehow and 2. damn you lose your phone and wallet in one.
We don't just leave shit hanging loose lol. We still have credit cards and drivers licenses to hold.
Some would argue that is still a wallet, just a wallet with a magnet to attach to stuff.
There is no argument to be had here. That is literally a wallet.
i had one of those wallet phone cases and lost my phone. luckily it was at pride and whoever found it was not an asshole. tracked the phone and got it back, and thankfully didnt get my card used or stolen. i learned that day.
(i only lost it that once. just my luck lol)
I have one of these that has a tracker in it, so even if my phone dies, I can find both my wallet and my phone.
But then that comes with the tradeoff of being unable to use Qi charging
I got a magnetic one that you can snap off to charge wirelessly.
I use my wallet to store ma drugz
I usually get plastic sleeves with those, so yes, I just have a stack of cards in my pocket. At least I can fit it in together with a phone.
Although I don't know how to deal with coins. A jacket brings me extra pockets at least, which is why I can more or less only use cash during winter.
Buying a wallet requires a choice. Searching for something right, and I am too lazy for that, so in the pocket it goes. Unfortunately, I often lack pockets. So if I am not traveling, I'll just leave out my phone, so I can still fit in keys, cards, and a shopping bag. After all, I don't need a phone most of the time anyway.
why would you even carry your id? the driver's license is always in the car and the medical card is only needed for appointments at the doctor
I don't know anyone who keeps their license in their car. Car culture is different in the us vs the eu, so maybe not as common over there, but sometimes if traveling with friends you will switch who drives. You should have your license on you if you're driving. Additionally, it's good to have your ID in case you forget your credit card somewhere and now you have a document with your picture on it that has a name that matches the card. I still get carded sometimes when buying alcohol or entering certain places so it's not unusual to want to keep it on hand in case you want drinks or something.
Also good to have your ID and insurance information in case of an emergency.
Because a cop can stop you at any time, in any place for any reason and while (legally) you don't need to show it - your day will suddenly get a whole lot worse if you don't.
And In the year of our Lord - you must also worry about ICE
Not just cops, either. If you want to buy alcohol, tobacco, permanent markers, spray paint, or enter a bar or nightclub, you’re required to show ID, either by law or establishment policy, and it’s been that way for decades.
superglue too. that one surprised me
Laughs in EU
No I'm really sorry you have to go through that shit in the US right now, it's hopefully gonna get better soon
I might drive my car, I might drive my partner's, I might drive my coworker's car. I might collapse on the street and someone needs to figure out who I am from what I'm carrying. The license/id stays with me, not the vehicle.
If you need to use a car that's not yours, what would you do if the license is in the car?
And why wouldn't you carry your id with you? Not just police might want to stop and ask for it, but what if you get involved in an accident and have to get taken to the hospital while unconscious? How are they going to id you to know who to call? Just to say an example.
Also, your medical card should always be with you in case of an emergency. You never know when will you need to be taken to the hospital and having it with you makes everything much easier.
There's no advantage that I can think of in not carrying your documents (or even copies of them) with you.
The grocery store I buy booze at forces the cashier to scan your ID. Also I walk there.
Because in a lot of places you legally have to carry your ID on you, not just when you're driving.
I have a 3d printed card holder I made.
Is that not just a wallet?
Not sure, there seems to be some debate on the subject.
I use one of those minimalist wallets, and I would describe it as a card holder with an elastic for cash.
My thought exactly. A decade or so ago my back was hurting and I decided to try a different style of wallet. Upgraded to a better one when I realized it works for me.
Even if all I have in it are cards, id, and a single dollar bill, it's still a wallet, just doesn't leave me sitting at an angle. Yeah I had a Costanza wallet going on.
In Denmark those are all available on your phone.
Yes, and if your phone runs out of battery, gets stolen or simply dies in any way, you won't have access to them.
My phone battery doesn't die, I have to charge it every night though.
Bold of you to assume your phone will never fail you.
Everything fails. Do you know how many times I've forgotten my wallet various places? My phone just fails less.
Which is why having everything on the same place is a bigger risk than having the phone and the wallet.
How is it a bigger risk? Two things = two things to lose. Especially since the tile in the wallet is worse than find my in the phone.
Ever heard of the saying "never put all the eggs in the same basket"? It's harder to lose two different things at the same time than to lose one. You might lose your wallet but keep your phone or viceversa, but it's way more difficult to lose both at the same time if they are in separate pockets. Also, paper documents work even if they get damaged, a phone might not.
I've heard of it, but have you heard of minimizing an attack surface? Your overall risk goes down if you can minimize it.
You can't make a phone smaller than it is. You are putting all your eggs on the same basket. You lose one, you lose everything. And, as I said, losing is not just forgetting it somewhere. You can drop it without noticing, you could get pickpocketed, you could damage it accidentally... You do you, but you are not minimizing the risk by having everything important on the same place and trusting your everything to one single item.
The phone is backed up, the wallet is not.
I think we just have to agree to disagree.
I used to have a separate wallet, but i switched to this magnetic billfold thing that attaches to the back of my phone. It has enough room for an ID, credit card, debit card, and ond of those tile locators shaped like a credit card. Unfortunately these are horrible for user privacy, but it helps me find it if I lose it. In a pinch, it can also hold a small fold of cash.
I almost never need the other things my old wallet held: insurance card, cash, other credit cards or gift cards...? What else did I even carry? I still have my old wallet at home and a small box I use to keep other ID cards, gift cards, etc.
The magnetic thing also doubles for a hands-free phone stand if I want to set the phone down on a surface and watch tv while I'm eating lunch or something.
If you lose your phone, you lose everything tho.
Not necessarily. I can detach the phone wallet and leave it at home if i want.
Also why would i lose my phone?
If i misplace it at home, i can use find my to ring it. Can't do that with a wallet.
If you leave the wallet at home and lose the phone or it fails, then you're still with no documents or cards. Just because it never happened to you doesn't mean it can't happen. I got in a car crash when I was returning home from my job and the phone got destroyed. I was able to be identified and my family located because I was carrying my wallet with ID, national security card and driver's license. It's an extreme case, but it can happen. It could also fall in a bad way and get damaged... I've seen too many phones (fortunately not mine) decide to fail their user in the worst moment to trust them exclusively.
This is why you always have to carry physical ID when you're driving.
Yes it has happened to me before. Just less often than losing my wallet when i used to have one that didn't attach to the phone.
Yes. But you said that you can leave your wallet at home, hence leaving all your documents on it and carrying just your phone. You can get involved in a car crash without driving by being a passanger or simply someone walking on the street or biking.
That's not your responsibility though. The hospital will still treat you at the ER