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Next you'll be telling me that China and Vietnam abandoned socialism because they use markets.
No, but because most money, gdp (3/4), companies and work (80%) etc is fully privately owned with no state ownership at all, because the workers rights are not improving (gig economy booming, retirement going up, vacation being 5 days per decade of work experience, no practical sick leave, the second employment system), because giant companies are slapped on the wrist for transgression and personal C-levels punishments for shit they do like Pinduoduo
please stop smoking crack, it's not good for you https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/chinas-private-sector-has-lost-ground-state-sector-has-gained-share-among
You do know those are not the same? Its literally like saying that USA citizens live good life because S&P is over 50k.
Edit: and if you don't believe me about gdp, here you have PRC press release from 3 years ago about Privately owned enterprises (POE means no government shares) http://english.scio.gov.cn/m/pressroom/2022-06/29/content_78295756.htm , ans here you have Daecheng Institute listing pure State Owned Enterperprise GDP https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/720545740 at below 30%.
Go read up on the concept of the commanding heights of the economy. Not to mention the fact that the party owns the golden share in all major companies, and has members on the board. You could watch an explanation of how the economy in China actually works here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E89qUXTX-k
Or even better, actually read a book https://redletterspp.com/products/the-east-is-still-red or two https://1804books.com/products/chinas-great-road would be a new experience for you.
My polish nationalist friend we meet again. Here you once again remain pushing falsehoods.
Gig economy being actively cracked down on and regulated to the benefit of workers:
https://hrss.suzhou.gov.cn/jsszhrss/zxfgk/202405/9acd0c4465e24bfeab20419cab150233.shtml
https://ldjy.xizang.gov.cn/xwzx/cjyfzzc/202402/t20240226_404989.html
https://ipc.court.gov.cn/zh-cn/news/view-2849.html
https://www.court.gov.cn/zixun/xiangqing/450651.html
https://fgk.chinatax.gov.cn/zcfgk/c100013/c5241790/content.html
https://chrm.mohrss.gov.cn/%E4%BA%BA%E7%A4%BE%E9%83%A8%E7%AD%89%E5%85%AD%E9%83%A8%E9%97%A8%E9%83%A8%E7%BD%B2%E5%8A%A0%E5%BC%BA%E6%96%B0%E5%B0%B1%E4%B8%9A%E5%BD%A2%E6%80%81%E5%8A%B3%E5%8A%A8%E7%BA%A0%E7%BA%B7%E4%B8%80%E7%AB%99/
https://chinajob.mohrss.gov.cn/h5/c/2024-11-13/418523.shtml
https://www.news.cn/politics/zywj/20260426/7f994e10f9f14810b899795970007a30/c.html
Misleading. Retirement age is being raised gradually over 15 years, while flexible early retirement up to 3 years early remains, delayed retirement requires agreement, special early-retirement protections are retained for hazardous/special work, and older-worker protections are being strengthened. Also, raising retirement from 50 to 55 for women and 60 to 63 for men over a period of 15 years, while life expectancy continues to rise and early-retirement options remain, is not the anti-worker gotcha you seem to think it is.
https://www.spp.gov.cn/spp/tt/202409/t20240913_666042.shtml
https://chrm.mohrss.gov.cn/%E3%80%8A%E5%AE%9E%E6%96%BD%E5%BC%B9%E6%80%A7%E9%80%80%E4%BC%91%E5%88%B6%E5%BA%A6%E6%9A%82%E8%A1%8C%E5%8A%9E%E6%B3%95%E3%80%8B%E5%8F%91%E5%B8%83/
https://big5.www.gov.cn/gate/big5/www.gov.cn/zhengce/202409/content_6974508.htm
https://english.scio.gov.cn/chinavoices/2025-01/02/content_117641102.html
Misleading again. While it is true that paid annual leave is 5 days after 1-10 years, 10 days after 10-20 years, and 15 days after 20+ years, public holidays and rest days do not count against annual leave. This adds 13 days of leave off the bat. A more accurat set of numbers would be 18, 23, 28 which is an entirely reasonable amount of leave. (Plus a few extra for minority groups to celebrate our major holidays).
https://publicservices.hrss.tj.gov.cn/ecdomain/framework/zcydt/fbbafimfopkibboikmfajfanojgaanpa/fadgmmdgopkjbboikmfajfanojgaanpa.do?disp_template=ccnjmfhhefpibbodjemcncephdmpjlhn&fileid=1092&isfloat=1&kbms=1&moduleIDPage=fadgmmdgopkjbboikmfajfanojgaanpa&siteIDPage=zcydt
https://xzfg.moj.gov.cn/front/law/detail?LawID=1737
The 2025 consumption-boost plan also explicitly calls for strict implementation of paid annual leave, making paid annual leave enforcement a focus of supervision, protecting rest rights, and prohibiting illegal extension of working hours:
https://www.news.cn/politics/zywj/20250316/12731c57b4e547f99c55606d9950bebd/c.html
False. China has a statutory medical-treatment period for illness or non-work injury of 3 to 24 months depending on working years and years with the employer. During that period, sick-pay/disease-relief pay must be paid and cannot be below 80% of the local minimum wage. Employers also cannot simply dismiss workers during the prescribed medical period.
https://rsj.gz.gov.cn/zmhd/cjwt/ldbz/content/post_10319021.html
https://chinajob.mohrss.gov.cn/h5/c/2021-06-10/309418.shtml
https://www.gjxfj.gov.cn/gjxfj/xxgk/fgwj/flfg/webinfo/2016/03/1460585589931971.htm
That sounds more like Worst Korea than China or Vietnam.
The Cuban social system is not being abandoned because they wanted to but because the US successfully imposed it on Cuba.
Cuban social system isn't being abandoned period. Please stop spreading ultra nonsense on here.
What do you even think the word ultra means?
The word ultra is used to refer to idealist leftists who are divorced from the real world and can't understand the concept of having to make compromises. It's the people Lenin wrote this book for, specifically this chapter https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch08.htm
The word "Ultra" is used these days by Hasan Piker stans who get extremely triggered when anyone points out AOC or Mamdani are endorsing another DNC establishment ghoul and entryism isn't working for the 300th time.
It's the equivalent ally calling someone a Tankie, but that doesn't work anymore so now they moved on to "Ultra".
Your angle of refutation is not that China and Cuba are "making compromises" but "this is good and based actually".
The word ultra is used to refer precisely to what Lenin is talking about, it's equivalent to pointing out that you are a deeply unserious person who doesn't engage with material reality we live in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism
My angle of refutation is that I will never cease to be amazed just how idealistic western left is. I suspect this largely stems from the fact that there is very little actual organizing happening, and most people are just LARPing being a communist online without having any understanding of the complexities involved in a genuine struggle. It’s always easy to criticize real work other people are doing.
The current online usage is exclusively done by DSA SocDems.
There's a battle between US imperialism and opposing forces and the US is taking a massive W in both Venezuela and Cuba because Leftists international solidarity is apparently "idealism" these days. Even in Palestine both China And Russia have
Only Iran is stepping up to the plate.
I guess asking for anything more than Zohran Mamdani DSA members but real international solidarity is too idealistic now.
Maybe in the bubble you live in that's the case. This is very much standard usage by Marxists to criticize idealists who consistently fail to do actual material analysis of the world.
The only reason Iran is able to step up to the plate is because of material support from Russia and China. I guess actually being able to understand how things are interconnected is too much to ask here.
Iran is able to step up to the plate because they have the balls and international solidarity with Palestinians to so.
If you genuinely don't understand that Iran is only able to step up because of support from Russia and China, what else is there to say really.
Iran engaging in international solidarity at massive risk to themselves is because of how epic and based Russia and China are apparently. So where's that international solidarity for Cuba? Or is Cuba implementing their new reforms for reasons entirely unrelated to the US blockade?
Once again, since you keep ignoring the elephant in the room, the only reason Iran is able to engage in international solidarity is because of the solidarity Russia and China have with Iran providing them with weapons, technology, economic aid, and diplomatic support. Evidently the concept of any support outside direct military action is just too difficult for you to comprehend.
Similarly, the whole context for this thread is China providing Cuba with the material means to deal with the energy crisis. But hey, why engage with reality when you can just confidently spew idealist nonsense. Once you've done better then you get the right to screech, but until then kindly sit the fuck down.
In exchange for oil and other goods and to improve their own geopolitical position. Not out of international solidarity.
Let's change the question because you don't seem to understand it: Why is Iran helping Palestine?
The fact that it's not pure altruism isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is. And of course, Iran isn't helping Palestine out of pure altruism either. Why do you think Iran just sat by while the genocide was happening for over a year. They could've closed Hormuz any time. The reason they are taking action now is because they're being threatened by the empire and its outpost in Israel. Iran is also trying to improve its position in the region. It's frankly incredible that you don't understand this.
If Iran would want to improve its position they would abandon Palestine and Lebanon. Iran is not even on the Greater Israel map they are completely safe. Iran could get rid of its sanctions simply by abandoning international solidarity and recognize Israel and become UAE2.0
Iran has supported Palestine through weapons for Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. That's why Israel attacked Iran. And why the US is not attacking China over Cuba. China And Russia aren't even breaking a simple oil blockade let alone supply it weapons USSR style.
Iran is closing Hormuz over Palestine and Lebanon. If they promised to stop supporting the resistance and recognize Israel the bombing would stop instantly and they would get Hormuz too.
Iran's leader gave his life for international solidarity. Iran had prepared for a NATO ground invasion for decades for supporting Palestine. With or without minor amounts of external support.
No, abandoning Palestine and Lebanon would absolutely not improve their position because it would just means they would be surrounded by US/Israeli proxies. Iran is fighting for the same reason Russia is fighting. They realize that this is existential for their sovereignty.
Also, I guess you slept through the whole tariff war if you think the US isn't attacking China. Meanwhile, China, just like Russia and Iran, has to deal with US proxies being set up all over Asia. I know this is hard for you to wrap your head around, but the world is a bit bigger than Cuba and Palestine.
Iran is closing Hormuz to protect its own interests first and foremost. Israel is the biggest threat to Iran in the region, and they have the upper hand now, so they are obviously using it.
Meanwhile, NATO ground invasion is an absurd idea, and everybody knows it. If you want to see a country fighting NATO fascists directly that what Russia's been doing for the past 4 years. Weird how you don't mention that anywhere. What western backed fascists were trying to do in Donbas is exactly what Israel is doing in Palestine right now. The reason that didn't happen was Russia.
You have a myopic view of the world, and you really have to start broadening it and looking at the world as an interconnected place instead of cherry picking individual conflicts to obsess over. The broader war is between the west and the Global South represented by G7 and BRICS. All these conflicts are connected to each other and the economic war that's happening. These aren't isolated incidents and individual countries duking it out.
And in return lift Iranian sanctions and receive massive economic prosperity. Do you even understand how much Iran is sacrificing for solidarity? The entire region is collaborating with the US and Israel because that's way more profitable.
And Iran isn't saying Palestine belongs to them like Russia does for the Donbas. Nor is Palestine right nextdoor to Iran. Iran could easily just become UAE2.0 if they wanted to sell out. There's currently a political struggle in Iran between the Iranian moderates who want to cave and the "hardliners" who want to keep showing international solidarity. Iran certainly isn't taking a pragmatic action. Meanwhile Russia and China won't even veto a resolution at the UN. It's ideological, not self-interest driven.
Cuba is a prime example itself. They sent fighters to free South Africa, not to gain something from it but to advance Socialism globally. It was Cubans that died protecting Maduro. Cuba sent doctors all over the world. Che was a massive proponent of international solidarity. And it's precisely because of that that it hurts to see Cuba not receive the amount of international support it needs and Cuba now needs to abandon some of their most defining policies.
That would obviously not happen. The US openly states that it wants to destroy Iran, and it has literally been assassinating their leaders. The only way the US would accept Iran is as a vassal state like Syria which would obviously mean purges of everyone currently in power. I really have a hard time believing that even you can't understand something so basic, so I have to wonder why you would write something that's obviously false.
Palestine doesn't need to be next door to Iran or belong to them. They're part of the axis of resistance weakening their main enemy which is Israel. Again, even a child should be able to understand why abandoning your allies would be a bad look. The reason Yemen, Hezbollah, and Iraqi militias are aligned with Iran is because they all have a common cause. If Iran starts abandoning allies, then the whole coalition would fall apart and they would all be taken out one by one.
Meanwhile, who gives a fuck about resolutions at the UN? There are plenty of resolutions on Gaza at the UN, show me what they achieve materially? What Russia and China do is provide weapons and economic aid. The fact that you have your head so far up your own ass that you can't even acknowledge this is phenomenal.
Yes, Cuba is a prime fucking example of Russia and China providing material support. Different countries support each other in different ways. I don't see you grabbing a gun and going to fight in Cuba either. You're sitting comfortably at home while shitposting here. Grow the fuck up.
Sure and the Gulf doesn't exist.
Look at you fighting in the trenches.
I'm not the one criticising China and Russia that they're not doing enough, you are.
Guess nobody should criticize Egypt Jordan or Saudi for abandoning Palestine either?
This is why Iran gets praise and the others don't.
It's really hard to take you seriously when you start making false equivalences like that.