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Tell me, what's the alternative?
I don't see one. You're just fucking grandstanding.
So, I'm what, supposed to not vote at all?
Then the actual evil will win
Americans seem to think they are due some sort of fair and equitable civil society without having to fight for it. Actual evil will win anyway unless you fight the evil people and take a stand, constantly-- not occasionally when its only relevant to you. The problem is that americans are too spoiled and are lazy with their politics and morals. They just lay there like baby birds waiting to be fed, so the evils take advantage of that lethargy and here we are.
I'm a Euro and I am constantly pissed at American politics. And it's blearing in our ears all day.
I couldn't tell you who is the mayor of London, but everyone knows who the mayor of NYC is.
both are actual evil.
A: we have to get rid of vaccines, get rid of healthcare and go to war
B: we have to keep vaccines, keep healthcare and go to war
You: woah! They're exactly the same!
that's not what I said but that's not going to stop the bad faith takes
It's exactly what you said
if that were true could link me saying that instead of typing something that I didn't type.
There's no other way to interpret this mate
there is but not if you refuse to operate in good faith
Stop being vague and elucidate your bad take then
I don't need to justify myself. everything I said is true
insulting me won't change the truth
You kinda do
Yes, both of those are, and I quote, "actual evil".
That both of your examples are, in fact, evil. They may not be the same, or equal, but both are, obviously, evil. Which was the argument.
As the kids say, you are doing the thing in the meme.
What alternative? You chose the options. I'm just pointing out that, as the user above said, they're both evil.
Morality has nothing to do with it. I'm saying you don't even understand your own argument.
...Apparently you don't even understand the conversation you're having.
The only solution liberals are capable of seeing are ones that involve their failed party and their failed ideology
And the solutions you offer are?
My point is you're just saying things and doing nothing.
It's a lose-lose situation, there is no win condition, there's just be heard, or be not heard