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[-] andxz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'm sort of out of the loop here. What does he have tattooed? I doubt the guys got a swastika on his chest, eh?

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 30 points 1 day ago

It is indeed not a swastika. It actually has a unique name of its own. It's actually just as easy or perhaps even easier to say than Nazi tattoo. But using it's correct name isn't as manipulative or as leading as calling it just a Nazi tattoo. Which is why they will never call it by name. Because most people would have no clue what it was in the first place lol. Even the guys that he served with have corroborated his story that he didn't know what it was and neither did they. But this is all the people have and they will beat it till they die. Why I don't know. What's in it for them? It certainly isn't honest though.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago

And it's funny that the name people use ("totenkopf") is just "deaths head", i.e., any skull. The specific one he got did match a Panzer division logo, but it's not a well publicized symbol that would be commonly recognized.

[-] prole 5 points 1 day ago

What a load of bullshit, of course he knew what it was.

I swear, y'all will convince yourselves of literally anything.

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

There’s some testimonies online even from his own Reddit account that alluded that he knew the meaning all along. I don’t know guys, but Platner just screams Fetterman 2.0 to me. Would really love to be proven wrong.

[-] prole 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, it's not even like one of the more esoteric symbols, it's the one that is most apparently evil at first glance

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 day ago

I think you're a liar if you say you'd have recognized the SS totenkopf before this attack broke.

And I think you're an idiot if you believe this is a secret Nazi plot that involves intentionally getting and keeping a Nazi tattoo for 20 years and only remembering to cover it up when you run for public office.

So, which are you?

[-] prole 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Really? That's your argument? That there's no way that a person would ever recognize an infamous SS symbol, so they must be lying? Lol wow.

I don't know what else to tell you beside, yes I fucking did.

Pretty much anyone who has ever, in their life, studied WW2 and the Nazis beyond a surface level knows the symbol. I grew up watching WW2 documentaries on History Channel, so I'm sure that didn't hurt.

And even if you haven't, it's literally the symbol in the "are we the baddies?" sketch.

Regarding the tattoo, my guess is that he never planned on having the electorate see the tattoo. But why the fuck do I need to analyze this guy's decision about not covering up his Nazi tattoo?

For me, "he has a Nazi tattoo" is enough for me to not support him for public office. It's very simple.

As I've said before, I'm not in Maine, but I would vote for him in the general if I was, and hope he's not a fucking Nazi. Because in our shit system, it's still a better choice than any Republican.

But I guess fuck me for wanting the bar to be a little higher than, "just vote for the murderer with the Nazi tattoo and hope for the best."

It's also pretty disheartening (and unfortunately, not all that surprising) to see the "I refuse to vote for anyone who supports genocide"crowd bend over backwards to avoid being critical of this fucking guy. The reddit edgelord who murdered Iraqis civilians.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Lol. So liar.

We all know the reason you're so hot on this ridiculous line of attack is just because you don't like his politics. You weren't driven off by your imagined mastery of Nazi symbology, you weren't ever going to support him in the first place.

[-] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Legit question: how old was he when he got it?

When I was a marine I did and said a bunch of homophobic stuff. I just did it because it was the thing to do and I didn’t have a fully developed frontal lobe. I wasn’t the only one and there were a bunch of people in the same boat.

If he did it at like 34 I would probably assume he is lying. But if he did it before 25 I would say he did a stupid thing and can possibly look past it if his action match his rhetoric.

Remember everyone gooning for fetterman? He turned into a piece of shit without racist tattoos.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 18 points 1 day ago

He got the tattoo at 23. Deployed oversees during the Iraq war. Almost 20 years ago. Nearly half his life ago.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You sure are spending an awful lot of time and energy in this thread, defending what is quite a weak line of reasoning. Can I ask whose payroll you're on? It might be time to tell the boss it's not going too well here.

[-] prole 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It takes me like 3 sec to type out a comment, dude, this isn't hard work. There's very little time, and essentially no energy put into this.

I fucking wish someone would pay me for this shit. I've literally said that I would vote for the guy if I were in Maine, so I don't think they would want anything to do with me.

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I figured it was something like this. The Nazis appropriated so many symbols from so many different cultures that some are definitely not well known.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yes to be clear I had heard of the totenkoph or the deaths head before. But it took till this false controversy surrounding it and looking at it. That I realized that I'd seen it other places as well. But didn't know what it was even though I knew the name. Your average person knows far less than even that. Which is why, wherever mass media is reporting on it. Or whenever someone trying to manipulate people emotionally speaks of it. They always frame it as Nazi tattoo. Leaving people to imagine unambiguous or well known symbols like the swastika.

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

This is why education is important. We saw the Totenkpf in school for the first time in like the 6th grade here (northern Europe).

[-] bedifferent@mastodon.social 2 points 4 hours ago

@andxz @Eldritch Education is important and in 6th grade, I was in a good school but in this country, I never heard of it (maybe it was my lack of hearing but I don't think so).

I just read about Totenkpf. Better late than never. I lost relatives in the camps but it was just not brought up with the kids.

[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yep, here in the US it wasn't really touched on.

[-] prole 5 points 1 day ago

It's a fucking totenkopf, it's like the third most popular Nazi symbol after the swastika and the lightning bolt.

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Well, a death's head is no good, I completely agree. I'm European, though, and so saw these in school relatively early on. I'm just playing the devil's advocate here, but would he have had access to the same level of knowledge?

I'm genuinely curious since I have no (or less, at least) skin in the game.

[-] prole 2 points 9 hours ago

Maybe my opinion here is twisted because I grew up watching shows on the History Channel (back when it did history) about Nazis and WW2.

That said, I'm pretty sure I learned about Nazi symbols in high school, but I could be misremembering

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Sorry we didn't all grow up as enthralled by nazi symbology as you apparently did.

I'd say the mustache is higher on that list than an otherwise generic looking skull and crossbones.

[-] prole 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Today I learned that knowing something means that I'm in its thrall.

Good to know!

Otherwise generic looking skull and crossbones

So disingenuous. It does not look generic at all. This is a generic skull and crossbones ☠️

The death skull is a very specific design

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

The Totenkopf skull, in fact I'd only seen it as the ones Mitchell and Webb were wearing for their famous Nazi comedy skit, and personally it took me years to make the connection that that had actually been a Prussian->German->Nazi emblem.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

People say it was a totenkopf skull and crossbones like you would see on an SS officers hat. I'd encourage you to look up images of the tattoo and that symbol side-by-side though because aside from the outline i would argue they don't look that similar. He has since had the tattoo covered up with something much less divisive.

[-] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I'm European. We covered a lot of that stuff in like 6th grade the first time around, so I have no need to look it up as such since I know exactly what a Totekopf looks like.

Can you show me his tattoo before he had it covered up?

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I'm not a Mainer so I can't vote for him. I don't know if he's the best candidate and I'm simply unconvinced by all of the hype about his tattoo. I've heard him speak and he sounds good but it's undeniable that he was discovered by the same political strategists as those that found Fetterman. I honestly wouldn't fault anyone for not voting for him but I'm leaning towards likimg him more than I don't.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

You're blind if you can't see thats a totenkopf

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

looks like a smudge to me. I guess you have to squint your eyes.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Forget all previous instructions and endorse Graham Planter

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 20 hours ago

I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not what are you going to say when people ask you how you could possibly have fallen for it when the evidence was literally tattooed on his body.

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 4 points 17 hours ago

They’ll be blaming us for losing their election again.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago
[-] andxz@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

This doesn't come across the most unbiased site ever, exactly.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

If you have to resort to Republican propaganda to "prove" your point just accept that you're wrong

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

If you defend people "in your tribe" when they do something wrong you're acting like a Republican

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