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[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 day ago

Make it affordable and I'll buy one tomorrow.

Let's talk VW specific. I would absolutely love an ID.Buzz. But you made the fucking thing SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS.

[-] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 17 hours ago

They were 80k near me. Insane. However, the Buzz is kind of an outlier - a non-luxury EV at luxury price.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Heh, my understanding is that they are affordable, assuming you're buying Chinese cars and your country hasn't levied absurd tariffs on that one country in particular.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

I wanted a Ferrari, but they made the fucking thing 6 HUNDRED AND 40 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not paying $640k for that thing for other reasons. What the hell was Ferrari thinking? Are they trying to make the ugliest Ferrari ever so they can say "see, nobody wants and EV"?

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Hey man you posted a picture of a Nissan leaf by mistake. Maybe check the post…

[-] 0tan0d@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Did VW ever implement one pedal drive? Total non starter for me a few years ago (got a volvo instead).

[-] hesdeadjim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

One pedal driving is coming this fall in MY2027. I've never had it, so driving in B mode feels good enough to me.

[-] valkyre09@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There’s B mode that will aggressively regenerate, but nowhere close to one pedal. Although I’ve found myself using the adaptive cruise control for no pedal drive

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[-] hesdeadjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

ID Buzzes have been selling for $15-20K under MSRP this year. My wife and I never expected to get one after they announced their pricing, but then $15K off a fully optioned one won us over. We grew tired of waiting on Honda to update their Odyssey. We'd been hauling 3 kids in our Accord Hybrid for 3.5 years and would have loved to drive an Odyssey hybrid. I did not want to buy a van with a V6 gas guzzler sporting less tech than my 9 year old Accord.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

You probably don't even know how much you've spent in gasoline and repairs for the ICE cars you've owned.

[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

Is that some kind of gotcha or something?

The average car buyer does not want to buy an expensive EV just to have an EV and will buy a $40k Toyota Sienna before they buy a $60k VW ID.Buzz.

Pretty easy to grasp...It's not rocket surgery. Make affordable EVs and not upmarket EVs and people will buy them. China figured that out.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I calculated this. Came out to somewhwre under $5k to drive my Golf 4 for like 8 years including the buying price. But yea whatever floats your electric boat big dog.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

$5k doesn't buy 8 years of gasoline. Also, note that it's always the gasoline people who think using names like "big dog" is a good idea.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

As if you bloody know how much and how I drive lol, funny internet man.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

By telling us you buy $5k worth of gasoline in 8 years, you're telling us you drive much less the average car owner, and you don't represent them. If $5k/8 years is true, you're trying to use your case as representing most people, which would also be misleading.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

you’re trying to use your case as representing most people

You interpreting what I said in that way is not my issue

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If your posts mean something else than what they say, they aren't anyone's.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think that's entirely possible depending on where they live and how much they drive. I have a spreadsheet with my gas spending, and I've spent around $12k on gas since 2016. That includes some cross-country road trips, and taking my car to the race track, where it can burn 3 tanks in a day...

For the last 6 years or so, I've only spent $3k in gas on my daily, since I don't have to go far and work remotely now. Gas prices in the PNW aren't exactly the cheapest either.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

Yea it's really funny how he doesn't believe that covers my gas when I drive a wittle 1.4 petrol every now and then between cities.

I literally use a tank in like 3-4 months probably. Now even less, since I work remote.

I never track it either... If that weren't obvious lol. I also fixed nearly everything on it so it should in theory be more efficient than your average broken down one.

Still, funny asf.

My wife's plug-in hybrid charging (at home) costs the same as fuel for an ICE vehicle that gets 60mpg running 87 octane. Electricity is cheaper, but it's also not free.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

you might want to re-check your math.

[-] Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Off-peak electricity rate in my area is around $0.14/kWh. One full charge is about 14 kWh, $1.96. This can go about 30mi max, for $0.065/mi.

My 300cc bike getting 60 mpg at a cost of $4.20/gal comes out to $0.07/mi.

Did I miss something?

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

Wait until you factor in replacing the entire battery pack of an EV in 10 years for $10k...

[-] Professor_Piddles@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Yep, I agree with your point. EVs have some desirable traits IMO, but some people seem to think they will never need expensive repairs and that their fuel is free.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Condolences to your wife. The rest of us are very happy with our PHEVs. Electricity is not free? Are you saying nuclear plants, hydro-dams, power grids and wind turbines aren't free? Ok I'll keep that in mind, thanks!

[-] Spot@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago

Not where I live. All those charges for the use of their electricity here. I definitely do not have space to set up my own personal nuclear reactor on my patio. Not even sure I could scavenge enough free materials to build it, even if I found free designs/blueprints.

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