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[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago

It sounds like your problems aren't with EVs. It sounds like your problems are with any modern car.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Both. But I rather fill up anytime for 2 mins than having to plan out my charging and waiting 45 mins. This is my biggest gripe.

The spyware, while a big concern, is secondary to my refueling schedule.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 14 points 3 weeks ago

You're driving a pretty old EV at this point. EV charging speeds have improved significantly. Also there are PHEVs now, why not split the difference?

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I have no idea what PHEV means. Sorry.

[-] whyrat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle. Sometimes called "Extended Range Electric Vehicles". TLDR: has a smallish battery you can plug in and charge that gives you something like 30 to 50 miles of range. Then a gas engine to use when the battery is low.

It's a good option for anyone who has limited daily driving and the ability to charge overnight. Sadly they're pretty rare. People will complain about "paying for 2 drivetrains" but cost-wise and feature-wise they make a lot of sense for people with occasional needs to drive longer distances.

If you search on cars.com it's a filter option under "fuel type". For my zip code there's currently 3.9K hybrid, 2.4K electric and only 19(!) plug-in hybrid listed.

[-] binomialchicken 2 points 3 weeks ago

Extended range electric vehicles are not the same as PHEVs. EREVs have a single drive train, which is all electric, with a gasoline generator that can charge the battery while still driving as a secondary energy source. They can get ranges that exceed regular ICE vehicles even.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

I've got 180 used PHEVs available on auto trader within 50 miles. Prob depends on the area

[-] runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago

Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle. it has a gas engine and an ev motor. the ev gets charged through regenerating breaking our through a charger. you get the best of both worlds.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Except for the maintenance of an ICE car.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

PHEV motors require less maintenance. They have no transmission, and a fraction of the strain of ICE motors.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

You sure have strong opinions for someone who knows almost nothing about the topic

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I know more about the topic than you do.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ok, Mr. "I don't know what a PHEV is" lol

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Dude seems like he's probably a troll, and a bad one at that.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

What were you driving, a 2013 Bolt?

EVs charge at 200kW now, not 40.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I have one of those and it happily does 250 kW at supported chargers. Takes me 20 minutes or so to go from 15% to 80%.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Did you even read your own source? This is literally the next fucking line down from your disingenuously-cropped table.
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[-] zewm@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

That’s not the vehicle I own. I’m posting the statistics for my experience.

[-] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

And I was posting mine, which you told me were false based off of yours.

[-] chris@links.openriver.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Where do you drive that 45 minute fillups mid-travel are necessary? Surely that is rare at least.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I never said anything regarding mid travel?

I charge at 20% to 80% regularly and up to 100% if I’m making a longer trip.

[-] APinkOrange@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

The car In considering to get charges from 10 to 80 in 12 minutes. 10 to 90 in 17 minutes. On a fast charger, obviously (400kw+).

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