352
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2026
352 points (100.0% liked)
politics
29962 readers
2108 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
I guess it just depends on what’s important to you.
Does it matter to you when an innocent person is horrifyingly massacred?
Or does that mean nothing to you?
It made enough of a difference that state and federal laws were enacted. The perpetrators were given life sentences. It caused a massive cultural shift in this and every country. For decades.
But if you want to ignore it, go ahead.
Every bigot - every monster- on this planet agrees with you. Those are the allies you have chosen.
In 1998 most users here were either toddlers or didn't exist.
Expecting them to have heard about a specific murder is ridiculous, especially if they're from a different state or another country.
So it doesn’t matter?
Where did I say it doesn't matter?
You're complaining that people don't know about something that happened 30 years ago, at a time when they were likely very young or didnt even exist.
Not knowing about every single terrible thing that has ever happened on a particular subject doesn't mean you don't care about it.
Without googling I bet you wouldn't know a thing about Holly Chapman and Jessica Wells in the UK, a double murder that happened over 20 years ago.
Or who Dawn Sturgess was.
Both pretty big here, the double murder led to significant changes in the law and procedures for data sharing across the UK.
The difference between us is, you not knowing about it doesnt lead me to the insane conclusion that its because you just don't care about the subject.
Either you agree that this man’s massacre was a tragedy, or you don’t. As far as I can tell, you are arguing very hard in favor of it, and that, simply because some people were not born before 1998, his death has no meaning. That is the message I am very clearly receiving from you.
I don’t know what’s wrong with you, but I’ve heard enough. I’m just gonna block you now.
So you're admitting the horrific double murder of two 11 year old girls doesn't matter?
You didnt know about them so obviously by your logic that means you don't believe they were a tragedy.
But yes, obviously you're incapable of understanding.
I did not know about this man's death.
Now I do know, I agree it was a tragedy.
You seem to believe me not knowing about something that happened in a foreign country when I was 15 years old means I wouldn't agree that it was a tragedy.
I'm old enough to maybe have known about this. But I didn't. Had absolutely no clue. The other person's responses indicate they are advocating for people like me. Ignorance of a travesty doesn't mean we are endorsing those atrocities. But clearly you expect clairvoyant level view that only matches what you already know. That's not reality. That's an unacceptable worldview that brings absolutely zero progress to stopping stupid shit like that. Go ahead and block the other user. But block me too please. I have no time for people who refuse to see that there is nuance in the world. My feed would be better of not dealing with self righteous assholes like yourself.
I never said any of these things, and obviously you are hallucinating for attention.
Of course I’m blocking you
I'm not disagreeing it's important, but you need to chill I think. You're getting angry at someone who is trying to become aware. I'm sure you realize how many innocent people die every day in the US. There's no way to keep track of it all, let alone so long ago. I wasn't aware of this, and I was alive for it, though I was very young.
There's a difference between ignoring something and being too young to have heard about it.
Are you too young for death to have any meaning for you?
The only argument you are making is that your very humanity has a sell-by date. I don’t accept that. I think you’re just making an excuse for being a piece of shit. And I certainly don’t accept that.
So, tell me, why do you find it OK that this innocent gay man was horrifically massacred? Why are you arguing in support of it?
Because that is unquestionably what you are doing
JFC take a breath. You went from 0-100 with absolutely no justification. Nobody is defending them, in any way, nor did anyone even imply that what they did was OK.
What in the fuck are you talking about?
What do you think not hearing about something means?
Are you arguing that your ignorance negates the meaning of someone’s death?
Are you really that arrogant and entitled? So solipsistic?
No.
Now answer my question.
Nobody is arguing that in this thread.
Your head is just a place to store your teeth, isn't it?
Dude I'm a history nerd and have a pretty solid grasp on random abscure shit and this was an unknown to me. I'm in California and my town was having crosses burned around the same time which is more directly relevance to me, some dude getting lynched a year before I was born in fucking Wyoming is so far outside my view you may as well bring up hate crimes in Vostoc Russia, the same thing applies to damned near everyone.
Fact of the matter is that it's categorically impossible to know about every hate crime committed in the past 30 years, even folks who study this shit for a living would probably miss some things. You don't need to know about every thrice damned obscure case to know the broad trends and issues.
You clearly speak another language than I do, because you heard something completely different than what I said.
Either you think that killing someone because they are gay as right or wrong. If you cannot answer to that, this conversation is over.