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submitted 2 months ago by aikhae@lemmy.ohaa.xyz to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Hello people, my family recently bought a Renault 5 e-tech. The car itself is great, but there are some aspects that creep me out, especially the driver-facing camera. We didn't actually know that such a camera existed before we bought the car, it was only mentioned as the car was given to us.

The cameras official purpose is to see, if you are tired and paying attention to the road, by some "AI magic", I suppose. You can also let it scan your face, so that you automatically get logged into your profile.

I personally think, that that is kinda creepy, especially as there is no visual indication if the camera is currently recording and no official way to disable the camera hardware-wise. When it is being coverd, the car immediately complains about it.

When talking to friends or family about it, I got one of two reactions: equal concern, or "nice feature actually", "what about the camera on your laptop?", "you are way too paranoid", "I have noting to hide; it is only me driving being recorded".

I have also seen such cameras in other cars, BYD for example.

What do you think, is this creepy or am I too paranoid? Does anyone know where the actual data is processed, on device or on some cloud server? Do you have any experience with such cameras? I couldn't really find any information about it on the internet.

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[-] Psiczar@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

You don’t login, the car recognises you and adjusts settings such as the seat position to the way you like to have it without you having to do it manually, it’s a convenience thing.

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have a 2019 Edge that has preset seat settings. They're on buttons on the door where you can set your seat configuration up with the seat adjustments and such, hold down the button 1, 2, or 3 to save it, and when you turn the car off it shifts to default. So when you get into the car, push your number and it just adjusts everything for you.

It does not need to scan your face or identify you in any way. It's a button next to the door unlock.

[-] Psiczar@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that’ would’ve been the way to do it before cameras were added.

It probably also does steering wheel height, aircon temp etc.

If the manufacturer is required by law to have a camera to monitor driver fatigue then they’ll make use it for other things like this.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, and for free, at the beginning. Then it'll become a subscription.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Wait, "when you turn the car off it shifts to default," so the seat doesn't just stay where it is when you turn the car off?

[-] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nope. It moves into a default position so it's easier to exit/enter. When I start it it'll automatically shift into the last preset used.

So if I start the car tomorrow, it'll shift into my setting. If my partner wants the car, they just have to push the 1 on the door and it'll shift into theirs.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

OK, that makes sense. At least it goes back to the last position.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 13 points 2 months ago

I'm the only one that drives my car. I don't need spyware to adjust the seat for me.

[-] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

My family only has one car. We don't have pre-recorded seat settings, but it would be handy.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

There's ways of doing per-recorded settings without putting a spy camera in your vehicle.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago

Is it conveniently connected to the internet and sending data about you to anywhere beyond your control?

[-] Psiczar@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Depends on the car. I think Tesla’s are always connected, but other brands you have to put a SIM card in so you have a choice.

I get the concern, I wouldn’t want to be monitored constantly by a 3rd party, but in this case I think it’s just for safety (monitoring driver fatigue) and convenience.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

You give car manufacturers too much credit with this 'benefit of the doubt'.

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