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This.
I know Harris and Clinton are controversial but they were two of the most qualified candidates to ever run, who happen to be women. Yet, somehow, the biggest moron on the planet defeated both of them. That moron only lost to the oldest man to ever take office, up to that point.
Careful, there's a lot of morons on lemmy that would rather live in a fascist state than vote for a candidate that isn't 100% perfect.
Entirely too many people let perfect be the enemy of better
I voted Harris. Techno feudalism is better than outright fascism, sure, and that is why I voted for the techno feudalist party that Harris represented. I wanted my neighbors to have food in their belly if it meant being surveilled and controlled and monetized and wage-slaved for the rest of their lives. I would rather have a few people snatched off the streets than the many that the fascists wanted.
I wish leftists took over the democratic party, though. They are techno feudalists who only have the argument of "at least we're not fascists". At least leftists care about my neighbors beyond making sure they have an employer to wage slave for and sustain the 1%.
The best democrats are the ones that are not at all like Harris. Make that make sense. The only redeeming quality about her, IMO, was she wasn't a fascist. I didn't find her annoying, but I just imagine her as a sock puppet for whoever tells her she's the bestest person ever. After being around children and watching them develop, most politicians are just adult-sized babies wanting to be told they're the goodest little boys and girls and are saving the world. Leftist politicians are not that, typically. They, typically, act like the adults in the room. Harris was the adult in the room full of fascists and is why I proudly voted for her. She is not an adult in the room full of leftists. She is a toddler and infant that is smarter than Trump because at least she wouldn't believe she's the best thing since sliced bread in a room full of adults actually smarter than her, which is not that hard at all.
She and everyone like her in that party needs to get kicked out and create a new "big tent" Liberal party which argues in favor of liberal ideas like free markets and a strong NATO and a strong Israel which will attract all of the non MAGA republicans (which is a strong sign that liberalism is a fucking stupid thing to desire IMO—that's what "working across the aisle" means to a liberal Democrat), and leave the Democrat party to leftists and people who actually want to work for the American working class. "Benefit the working class over the rich" is what people think is "perfection being the enemy of good". As if. That kind of defeatist attitude is what lets my neighbors suffer and get bent. But people don't care about my neighbors apparently, and therefore allow the democrats to get away with it for the past two decades. At least that way I can keep voting democrat without knowingly hurting my neighbors more than they should be.
The ones for techno feudalism like musk, thiel, yarvin and others are on trump's camp.
That's what dark MAGA supposed to be.
They were for Democrats before trump. They go to whoever is the winning party and democrats played their part during the Biden era.
That's the standard corruption (which politicians involved obviously should be punished). With trump they finally cut out the middle man.
I mean… we were doing much better than everyone else. Changing nothing is preferred to whatever the fuck this is!
Hey buddy, you don't like the word Fuck, but you'll call everyone else a moron? Maybe look in the mirror and stop being a dense fucking idiot.
As the saying goes:
But if she said she would have done things differently, it would have been played as disloyalty and the media would have a field day accusing her of hating her former boss and admitting to doing a terrible job. It was a lose-lose question.
Shhhh, we don't like this kind of rationality here
So vote for the guy who doesn’t even know what the word ‘grocery’ means. That makes sense.
But yeah...blame her for not doing anything different.
Oh I will.
That's what a reasonable person does when a leader spends four years ignoring a cost of living crisis.
She and Biden made sure Israel got their aid and their WMDs though.
Right. Not like trump, who is being very tough on Israel 🙄
Great response: "Our guy is as bad as their guy."
Are you talking about Biden?
The U.S. was recovering faster than other 1st world nations under Biden. Dude invested heavily in clean energy. He had a solid job creation record. He was forgiving student loans. He was trying to get medical debt off credit reports.
Were you asleep during his presidency? Cuz it sure seems like a significant number of Americans were.
"I want 100% of my demands met or I'm taking my ball and going home." - Asshole Losers
Except some asshole takes your ball and punches you while going home.
I mean General Harris should have simply not ordered the IDF to do a genocide!
If the genocide was already ongoing under a Democrat, then it's not fascism, it's just sparkling authoritarianism.
Stop calling my team pro genocide. I hate being called a genocide enabler. Stop calling me and my party that! We are not genocide enablers!!!!!
Qualified how exactly?
Harris couldn't make it out of Iowa when she tried a legitimate run and Clinton had to rig primaries to win against Bernie. (A practice Dems were later forced to defend in a public court proceeding.)
You're mixing up qualifications with elect-ability. They are not the same thing. Both women were very qualified for the job. That has nothing to do with whether or not people like, or are willing to vote, for them. Given your other comments, I'm guessing this isn't a mistake on your part, but run of the mill disingenuous internet troll behavior.
You fuckin people still going on about how it was rigged when you just don't understand either how it works in the first place and also that Bernie overwhelmingly lost to Hilary because he's not a fuckin Democrat, of course Democrats are going to pick the Democrat to represent the Democrats, and the primary was legit and it wasn't remotely fuckin close. Progressives don't vote, and they didn't show up or register to vote for him in the primary and he fuckin overwhelmingly lost. Take your russian republican propaganda bullshit and fuck off fuckin fascist supporter.
I respect the shit out of Bernie, but I'm beyond fucking tired of people whining about him.
He lost the popular vote in both primaries.
He wasn't as popular as the people still whining about it think he was.
Shit yeah, I campaigned for him and voted for him in the primary and still wasn't surprised that he overwhelmingly lost, like it wasn't even close. That was democratic primary voters that picked Hillary, any finger on the scales the DNC had wasn't making a significant difference. DNC could have backed Bernie and he still would have lost. Democratic primary voters are almost exclusively liberals, I've already mentioned a thousand times us progressives mostly don't vote.
Qualified in terms of education and experience, not policy or public appeal.
What do you think qualifies a person for office exactly?
But but but both sides! Kamala would have been worse than Trump in every way shape possible. Because… both sides!
/s I really hate people who argue both sides are the same. It just reduces voter turnout and republicans win when less people vote.
Oh, Kamala is better than Trump. barely. She's as useful as a wet noodle, and wet noodles are more useful and better than Trump. So of course she's better than Trump. Anyone who argues otherwise is a moron. But anyone who argues she's better than any other free market advocating, NATO loving, Israel supporting liberal is also a moron. Leftists do not advocate for free markets, NATO, or Israel.
Smooth brain take right there.
It depends on what scales we're talking about. I don't like liberalism. I think liberalism is a stepping stone that will be left behind soon enough. On the scale I'm talking about, any liberal is barely better than a fascist because history has shown time and time again: Republics turn into fascistic dictatorships. It happened to every republic ever since Rome happened.
I would like to move beyond the cycle of Republic -> Empire -> Republic -> Empire we seem to be in. Liberalism and universalism is the one thing that changed since the holy roman empire fell, but it's not enough obviously. There has to be something more than liberalism, and I think it's socialism and collectivism. That's just me though. Liberals are barely better than fascists because they beget fascists.
Nobody ever argues that they're the same. Someone points out that neither is all that great, which is accurate, and a dozen idiots come out of the woodwork to shout "both sides!" at them. I suppose you want people to pretend that one of them is good, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
One is the lesser of two evils, that's unarguable, and it isn't the fascist party.
A lesser evil is still evil, is it not?
Who the fuck cares?
One WILL be in control. That WILL happen.
Only a moron would do anything other than vote for the lesser of two evils if it is GUARANTEED that one of the two will be in power and control our lives.
I do, and you should.
And that means I have to be happy about it?
We're not talking about voting. We're talking about people who drag out the old "both sides!" bumper sticker slogan anytime someone dares to criticize the Democrats. What's your suggested alternative? Should I pretend to like them?
Hooray for me! I voted for evil!
If my only choice is between losing a finger or losing an arm, I'm going to choose the finger. That doesn't mean I have to be excited about it.
I don't think voting actually changes anything federally because I don't think voting matters while we have the electoral college in play there. That being said, voting is a form of harm reduction and the democrats aren't fascists.
I don't judge people for not voting, I do judge people for voting republican, though. I would rather people stay at home than vote republican.
Qualified for war crimes and genocide? Yes, overqualified. Now downvote me, bend over and spread your cheeks, October is coming. You need to be prepared.
Молодец, товарищ, это вызовет большой раскол.
That's the problem. The qualifications are literally being a piece of shit.
Clinton was certainly qualified. Senator and Secretary of State make great qualifications. The other one eh...
Well she also was a senator and a VP. But yeah, Clinton has longer experience.
That's because the issue isn't just candidates not adequately reaching voters. It's that American voters are fantastically stupid and, in many cases, also fantastically bigoted.
So take a candidate that's open to being publicly bigoted and throw in some pretty obvious propaganda and watch the drooling masses perform a historic blunder.
Bill Clinton isn't a woman, silly!