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submitted 2 weeks ago by Tolc@lemmy.world to c/communism@lemmy.ml

I have noticed that largely most anarchists online are from the first world and that anarchism is very popular than communism in western countries, i.e. its become overtly a first world white people ideology.

While marxism leninism is popular in the third world, with large marxist leninist parties and non existing anarchist forces. What do you think about this?

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[-] Robyn 1 points 1 week ago

Nicely said. I fall into the anarchist camp for that very reason, because the ML cultural vanguard routinely results in people like me getting shafted. The beautiful and intoxicating world MLs describe shatters rather violently when everyone in your particular community gets treated as some foreign actor simply for not adhering to a traditional social hierarchy. It’s hard for people like me to not see the direction ML takes communism as a complete betrayal and abandonment of the principles behind deconstructing unjust hierarchies.

A lot of people in post Warsaw Pact countries like my parents are so traumatized by this shit, that you can’t even mention the word communism around them without them throwing a tantrum. And while they are objectively wrong for doing so, the damage done to them is real and should not be ignored. And sadly, most MLs I have met so far willfully distance them selves from this or label me a foreign actor and start accusing me of reading news I’ve never heard of, or start telling me that china is not tyrannical, as if I said anything of that kind. I’m yet to have a conversation with a proud ML that doesn’t immediately become them accusing me of things I didn’t say or start recommending me books on irrelevant topics I already agree on.

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Keep chasing the unachievable. Keep engaging in utopianism and moralism. Keep denouncing the genuine attempts to communism and maybe you will achieve communism.

[-] Robyn 1 points 6 days ago

You’re literally proving my point. Dismiss what I said and then claim I’m “denouncing the genuine attempts”, a thing I literally didn’t do and also something I would full heartedly support you on, I literally said I’m all on board except for this one thing. All I pointed out was that a minority gets shafted and prosecuted as a threat for no reason, but apparently that is too much to acknowledge, so instead you deflect or ignore and then strawman me.

My reply here is largely meaningless as I’m just repeating my self over and over, so it’s more of a desperate plea for reason…

Like really? “unachievable”? All I ask for is that people like me are not treated as threats to be subdued simply for not submitting to traditional social hierarchy. If that is unachievable, then your version of communism is a betrayal! Most of us are too vulnerable to ever be a threat to the outside, prosecuting us is literally a waste of resources! The only reason I can’t join your cause is because you keep pushing me out. This is so dumb… Why is any attempt at discourse with MLs always like this?

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