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submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

“This was not reckless driving. This was murder,” the judge said before she read out Mackenzie Shirilla's verdict Monday afternoon.

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

This is why suicidal people are dangerous, it's a relatively small change from killing yourself, to killing others.

[-] zaph@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago

This is why pastry chefs are dangerous, it's a relatively small change from baking your bread, to baking others.

[-] Yepthatsme@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

This is why being baked while baking with a baker is dangerous. You get too baked and you might get baked by the baker for making bad cakes.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Baking bread and stuff is easier. Have you seen hot fat people have gotten? No way I am getting an adult into my oven.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago
[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

As such, it is clear that suicides tend to have high levels of aggressive–destructive impulsive behaviours, generally referred to as impulsive–aggressive behaviours. These have been operationally defined in suicide studies as a tendency to react with animosity or overt hostility without consideration to possible consequences, when piqued or under stress.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277022/

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Did you read anything else in that paper...? The words around that statement? Even the abstract?

Or did you google what you wanted to see and post the result, because that paper is not about people harming others whilst attempting suicide. It is barely tangentially about that.

(it's about the impact of aggressive-impulsive tendencies on the suicide...r themselves)

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 10 points 2 years ago

@ryathal @agressivelyPassive

Have suicidal ideation is in no way, shape or form the same as being the perpetrator of a murder-suicide. Neither is being suicidal a lead-in to becoming a murderer.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Driving a car at 100mph into a building is more than ideation. That's attempted suicide.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

No there may be a small chance of collateral damage, such as this case. But suicidal thinking does not make you think of killing others. You're clearly lucky enough to have never had suicidal ideation, but it never comes near the kind of thoughts that want to kill others

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

It changes when it comes to acting. If you have the gun to your head, shooting someone telling you to stop is also highly likely.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Let's see some stats on that one because being an abusive murder is a lot different than suicidality.

There is no correlation between her wanting to kill people and her potential suicidality. They just coincidentally line up in this case.

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