You focus on the system of slavery, slave holders will be your first fucking target, holy shit. You know why you don't go after men if you focus on the system of patriarchy? Because it's not their identity as a man that perpetuates the patriarchy. That's the fucking point of focus on the system; you identify the actual problem instead of creating a new one.

Right.... No one has established that all men are being blamed for the system of the patriarchy. I specified that men who actively participate and benefit from reinforcing the hierarchy should be criticized.

However, if you attribute the problems of the system of patriarchy to men instead of the system, suddenly you start getting dumbfuck rhetoric like the post above.

Again..... I never said to blame only and all men? Just that some men who benefit and perpetuate the problem will justly deserve criticism. I feel like you are trying to conflate that with me saying all men deserve to be blamed

The system is the problem, not the people of the system.

So this argument seems to negate your prior claims. You agreed that the slavers should be targeted for the system of slavery. Isn't that people of the system being a problem?

Blaming it on the system does NOT absolve anyone of wrongdoing

So certain people within the system are the problem?

The Patriarchy =/= Men

I never claimed that the patriarchy = men. Just that men overwhelmingly benefit and control it.

Attacking men =/= feminism

Attacking certain men guilty of perpetuating the patriarchy can be an act of feminist praxis

Casual sexism toward men as a growing part of liberal rhetoric has pushed young men toward right wing dickheads. This is a bad thing and everyone is wrong here.

And conflating criticism towards certain men who deserve it is often being conflated as sexism as a way to push young men towards right winged dickheads.

patriarchy and everyone suffers for it. You don't attack the rhetoric, you make it irrelevant.

I mean that's just incorrect. The people who actively perpetuate the patriarchy often benefit from it. Even the people whom do not actively perpetuate it passively benefit from it in certain ways.

correct your analogy, it's like blaming slavery on white people. It just obfuscates the actual root of the problem and creates a new fucking problem with a dumbshit red herring.

I mean, that's kinda the opposite of what I was saying even with your modifications. No one has said all men are being blamed but you. My point was that you cannot dismantle a system like slavery without targeting the people who participate and benefit from it. Which conflicts with your claim of only attacking the system, not the people. I think people blaming all white people for slavery is just as unlikely as someone blaming all men for the patriarchy.

But it's the fucking system of slavery you want to abolish, not white people. Blame it on white people because it's white people things? Well shit, you're not nearly as bad as a fucking slaver, but does it make you feel good to use their logic?

Can you point out a single time I said I was blaming all men?