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[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you actually dig into it, like me, he was clueless that a skull and crossbones was a Nazi symbol. It was the first thing I looked up on him, then just stared trying to sort it out because it didn’t look like any Nazi symbology I’d ever seen.

Good odds this a big money rumor to keep people like this guy off ballots.

He’s essentially working class. Liberal gun owner. Calling for retirement of the old guard. Better to look up what the man has said re Schumer and such.

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

I've said it before, but if his reddit post history is any indication, if he's a Nazi plant he's playing the really long game. Not that he hasn't posted stupid shit, but the worst of it was posted long ago and it's fair to account for personal growth.

I don't think he is the best progressive candidate possible but he probably isn't a Nazi. Just kind of ignorant.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

My best friend was military. Raised Mormon, though he spent a decent amount of time in boys homes (very crazy mom) and went into the military as quickly as he could. Very typical meathead character, doing basic toxic male shit. He was working for the military when I met him. And I met him because he was leaving his faith when he learned about atheism. Since then, he became a pacifist (I helped him through his conscientious objector status to get out of the military), got rid of his guns, became a staunch Democrat, recognized his suppressed bisexuality, and started working on his mental health. If you put the person I first met, next to the person he is today, he's only visually the same. Completely different person. It's not normal to have such extreme changes. Most of us don't have those polar changes in life. But some people do. Platner sounds a lot like my friend. He has been angry for a while but finally put on the They Live glasses and figured out who and what to be angry at. Could it all be a farce? Yeah. We could be being misled. Any politician can be someone else. Platner's story thus far is absolutely plausible. And it's been scrutinized heavily. He's not a George Santos. He IS however targeted by Israel and the oligarchs. So, I'm choosing to believe his story, one that I've seen before, over targeted talking points that are being used in paid ads by AIPAC.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

It's not about being misled. The guy has very clearly not done the work. Sure. He looks like he's starting to do the work, but he's a massive fucking liability with the half apologies and the backtracking. He's not woke yet. Yes, everyone has a right to start where there are. No, we don't have to fucking vote them into positions of power over us.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 8 points 3 days ago

What’s the alternative? There is only one alternative: Susan Collins. That’s the forced choice. Platner or Collins.

It will be one or the other.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Correct! It's almost like electoralism isn't solving any fucking problems and we should stop wasting time on this race - because every single choice is a losing choice - and instead focus our efforts on literally anything else that makes life better because giving Democrats our energy is just frog marching us towards more and more death, destruction, and devastation.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 8 points 3 days ago

Versus, what? Enjoying the present Trump/Vought/Vance state?

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Trump state that the Democrats paved the way for and did not lift a finger to stop. Stop acting like administrations are discontinuous. Most of the tools Trump is using were put in place or enhanced by former Democrat administrations. Tom Homan was an Obama appointee. The Obama/Clinton war crime campaign in Libya was initiated by Bush 2. All of the prior administrations expanded the military, expanded militarization of the police, etc. Bill and Hillary lived in the Governor's Mansion in AK, saw the black house slaves from the prison who worked there and just went on being served by black house slaves for the entire term. Every administration and every swing of power in Congress has maintained and expanded the sanctions regime that kills 800k people every year.

The Democrats are not a solution. They have never been a solution. They have always been a part of the problem. The problem is not limited to a single party, it's the entire political system. It was founded this way, it was designed this way, it was cultivated this way, it was protected this way, it was maintained this way. And Platner shows us exactly how it works. Bring in a white supremacist murderer with a tottenkopf tattoo who, after seeing the atrocities of the US war machine first hand decided to go work for Blackwater mercenaries who are known to be even worse in the field and then all he has to do is remove the tattoo, apologize, and then get frustrated when people keep bringing it up. Blame the voters for not voting the right way. It's never the party's fault. They literally couldn't find someone who wasn't a murderer who volunteered to keep the murder going multiple times and doesn't really want to talk much about it except that everyone should respect him now for deciding to go into politics with empty promises that he has no power to keep.

What's the alternative? When you see a Sophie's Choice, just don't play that game and go do something like organize locally with the homeless, with the racialized, and build a movement that will topple this tower of bullshit. Work with your racial and gender category in breaking down their internalization of oppressive systems. Actually engage in liberatory politics instead of literally fighting for a murdering mercenary and blaming voters for not choosing to pick a leader from among a bunch of people who literally do not deserve their respect and do not deserve the power they are asking for.

[-] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not knowing what it is is an obvious lie, sorry. There's no way the white male millennial soldier that grew up with the History Channel didn't know what it was. His friends and family have said he knew what it was. He had Reddit posts defending police getting SS bolts and discussing the thematic differences between Totenkopf and Punisher tattoos.

And, honestly, if he genuinely didn't know what it was, that level of historical ignorance should also be disqualifying.

[-] Nefara@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

So if the argument is that he is, still, currently a Nazi, just running on progressive ideology to pull one over on all of us dumb rubes, why bother hiding it? Why be a cryptofascist when obvious-as-fuck fascists are running on fascist platforms and getting elected because they're fascists? He has said literally nothing even in his online posts as a private citizen anywhere near as far-reich or as blatant as the current admin says in plain sight on Twitter.

[-] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Idk and I'm gen x,different state, but seriously did i fuckin idiots really elect another fetterman? Quit bein gullible, and curb stop a Republican

[-] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You know they fucking did, man, and they are going to witch hunt US for calling their dumb asses out.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 3 days ago

Then what was it? I’m no deep dive history buff on nazis but I’ve had the college level courses, in addition to the extra bits on Speer and the symbology. I did not recognize it. Link old, pre headline sources.

[-] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 3 points 3 days ago

You've studied Nazism at a collegiate level but are asking for a source on what a totenkopf is...?

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

He also didn't know what sexting was, eh? Just said some words that his buddies thought sounded cool and next thing you know his wife is sharing them to expose what he's actually like?

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

he was clueless that a skull and crossbones was a Nazi symbol

You don't need to be a historian to guess that a skull and crossbones isn't exactly a peace symbol.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

The US Marines aren't exactly the peace corps.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 3 days ago

Military.. His unit got that tattoo. Not my thing, but, whatever. The guy is an oyster farmer now. Cusses like a sailor too.

Idc. But then I also think the liberal side of things needs to lay off the gun thing.

I’d be curious to see an old source on that tattoo.

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