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[-] jtrek@startrek.website 53 points 12 hours ago

It wouldn't be so bad if you couldn't use the unrealized gains. But people can have a bunch of stock, get an untaxed loan, and have access to money without the tax burden. We should fix that.

Also property tax should probably be progressive

[-] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, we should fix that, but it's still pretty bad because it incentivizes investments in stocks (an inherently speculative asset that destabilizes the world) over bonds (a contractually defined asset that more effectively resists speculation and destabilization). Sure, they're both financial assets, so there's a certain amount of nonsense built in, but I'd much prefer a society filled with people who invest in bonds and incentivized to demand financial regulation.

Also, we should treat stocks like dividends and tax them at the same rate. You get money every month from dividends and you choose whether you want to re-invest it or not. You're effectively auto-re-investing with stocks, so it's not meaningfully different. You should have to pay on the yearly difference in value, and if that means you have to sell some to pay the tax then you should just get over it.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

What happens when my socks value decreases 30% one month? Do I get a tax refund?

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 1 points 6 hours ago

It depends on the details of the implementation. There are many possible solutions.

If we change it so the rule is like "if you use stock as collateral to get a loan, that is income and taxed as such" then no. You might just default on your loan, but that's kind of on you and the bank for using a volatile asset as collateral.

[-] sexhaver87@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Got some bad socks there brother

[-] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

What happens when someone fails to pay back their bond? Do I get a tax refund?

this post was submitted on 24 May 2026
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