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For those interested on the question of age verification and GNU/Linux: be aware that Systemd v261-rc1 was recently released. It now implements an optional birth date field in the JSON user database (see second item under "Other changes").

The implementation of this field was prompted by age-verification or -attestation laws.

(Age-verification status of Open Source Operating Systems.)

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[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Could someone explain to me why numerous Linux development groups are jumping on board with this bullshit? This is I think the third such post I've read that a distro or however you call it, is integrating the age check. Since when does the Linux community get on board with Big Brother????

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago

A surprising amount of people in the open source community lean alt-right including the lead dev of systemd, some of FUTO, and others like hyprland, etc. Others like the actual dev that committed the age field code to systemd state they are apolitical but in reality are actually enabling those that want to do harm.

[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

This attack is no limited to "alt-right", it is across the political spectrum. Ex. there are plenty of lefty states implementing these laws.

Authoritarian is still authoritarianism whether it's from left or right.

(I'd also argue that software development is generally filled with leftists, I think the recent rise of prominent right-leaning developers is in reponse to many projects forgoing politically neutrality)

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

That's fair. Authoritarianism across the board is inherently anti-free and will give rise to enshittified or unsecure software given enough time. We're not only dealing with bigots that can't stand living on the same planet as others they don't understand, but also those that want strict authority and enforcement.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago

There's a breed of incel who benefits from power tripping in community projects. Think reddit mods.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

Because it's a legal requirement in some areas now.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That Linux has to have this? B. S. There’s no way that could be enforced. Make every edition an alpha testing release. Make it not work. Whatever you have to do. Just don’t capitulate and immediately do their exact bidding.

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

But who is checking? Last I read, these laws were created in a few states as a preventative measure against potential Federal laws that could push these issues even further. I haven't heard of any enforcement plans to date or anything about how it should report, just "add age verification to operating systems."

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

It's not up to the systemd team to decide for you what your risk tolerance is. They're just providing a means to be compliant should you want/need it.

[-] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

Collaborators. All of you that welcome this or push it.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I don’t get it. No matter how you lean politically, if you’re part of the dev community not just making software but building Linux - there’s an inherent sense of freedom and liberty in your endeavors. So unless these guys are long-seeded poison pills, I just don’t get the mentality. Don’t do it. Let it be someone else’s job. A someone else who is theoretical.

It just surprises me is all. In Linux of all places. One of the last remaining bastions of truly open, free, transparent and cooperative, voluntary yada yada. All that. It doesn’t gel with licking boots and willingly doing this shit without being forced. Also, they’re literally spitting on their devoted users and encouraging them to change to a different system.

[-] TheMadBeagle@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

This is a take I think makes the decision make more sense to me (if this is the reasoning), letting the user opt into compliance rather than forcing their hand.

[-] helix@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

Well I mean if you add an age field now and pretend it works you might get in front of laws which would require a shittier version. Now they can say "we have age verification".

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