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What is a big internal debate within a fandom or hobby you are a part of that outsiders probably wouldn't care about? (lemmy.world)

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In the Lord of the Rings fandom there's a persistent debate whether balrogs, or Durin's Bane specifically, have wings. The text in Fellowship is ambiguous whether what it is describing are literal wings or something else wing-like.

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[-] AbsolutelyNotSpez@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Star Trek (Voyager): Was it murder to split Tuvix back into Tuvok and Neelix?

I've got a long and complex possible solution to offer regarding this ethical clusterfuck, and I'm willing to elaborate if someone's interested to hear it.

Edit (possible solution): Voyager's database should include the Enterprise D's information regarding Riker's duplication incident. While Voyager's crew already found a way to separate Tuvix, they could've searched for a possibility to repeat that process and then split back the copy Tuvix a few milliseconds into the original Tuvok and Neelix before said copy became self-aware.

[-] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago

That’s what makes it a good story though - an ethical dilemma with no clear “right” answer.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

They should have just kept replicating Tuvix with the transporter and using him as fuel.

[-] ZMoney@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

So I was under the assumption that every time they beamed someone up or down they murdered them and an exact copy appeared elsewhere.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

The longest and most complex solutions are usually right (yes, please share).

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

The trench from my bed to my toilet is three meters but I can whizz without getting up anymore

[-] LoveRainbow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

The Riker split depended on a plant on that one particular planet. Maybe it cannot be replicated.

Fully embracing that technology would have loads of chaotic outcomes...maybe they forbade it or something? Ripe for abuse...the ability to make infinite free clones or people...

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Boimler would like a word

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

they did it again LTD. anyways, janeway practically groomed 7 of 9, not in a sexual way but trying to mold her into a daughter she never had.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Im curious, please share

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Two characters got merged into one completely new character the had traits of both, but was their own person. Decision was made to forcibly (against the new character's wishes) undo the accident and restore the two people. In so doing the new character no longer existed.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yes ive seen Voyager lol, I meant their solution

Thanks for trying tho

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Lol should have remembered this was Lemmy.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

They used a transporter, so yes.

Every use of a transporter where someone is disassembled is murder, or possibly suicide.

[-] starik@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, they could have just printed out a new copy of Tuvok and Neelix, and left Tuvix alone. The restriction that you can’t just make copies never made sense. Are there souls in Star Trek? Is the soul the thing that is actually being “transported” into a new body substrate?

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Alternatively we're just data (as muteable as a save file) so neither of them died at any point as Tuvix was a valid continuation of both their continuities, similary when Tuvix was split again Tuvok and Nelix also constituted valid continuations of Tuvix's continuity.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes and she was right to do it. Except maybe she should have made a backup so she could have done it again

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