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Spam and porn are flooding kbin already
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Defederate, massively
Beehaw has more than 380 instances blocked. I don't think that kbin blocks anything, where can we see the list?
edit: I see a lot of downvote. You DO understand that some instances are sharing lolita stuff and the police can close the servers of Ernest depending on what is federated? Right?
I mean you can do it yourself. I turned federation status off for me to get a feel for kbin, interact here and see whats on here. If I get bored I might turn it back on and see what's happening in other places.
This is good imo. Let the user decide what they want to see.
How do you do that? I was looking for exactly that feature but can't find a "local list", which only shows kbin threads or something similar.
this button
I think that this button defederate your content, not the content from other instances.
if you want to block another instance, you can click on its domain name (between bracket) and block it. like you'll block usual magazine
you can also type this in your url to access a domain : https://kbin.social/d/name of the domain like kbin.social or lemmy.whatever
then you can check the magazines and domains you blocked in your profile's settings.
but it's still a bit buggy and need some work to work correctly.
That federation button switched to “off” will not show content on home feed from the other instances.
I had the same question and posted it in meta, a kind user let me know and it works great. I prefer kbin’s feed.
it may have the same effect but it's not the same feature. if you block domain, like you block magazine, you get to have an ensemble view of all those in your user settings. that kinda make sense.
and I can't find where the instances defederated with your technique are listed. maybe you know where?
edit: syntax
So I've gone to https://kbin.social/d/lemmynsfw.com, which pulled up that instance, but how do I then block that instance?
you click on the O with a bar. the same way you block a magazine.
https://kbin.social/m/kbinfaqs@kilioa.org is a good place for knowledge
Click the little triangle in the top right corner just under the search button. There's an option to turn federation on or off.
I think defederating may be knee jerk at this stage? Beehaw seems to have defederated because they vet users and are worried about unvetted users flooding their service; that's a fundamental community position rather than a fediverse issue. In this case it's more about tags not being applied correctly and how to improve that process (e.g. automation based on server or community posted to).
Defederating or blocking specific instances/servers seems like it should be a last resort - e.g. if a service is lax about moderation or refuses to deal with issues then it makes sense.
I disagree. I really think closing ourselves off to a bunch of places goes against the spirit of the fediverse. I want to be getting content from a lot of places which I can then filter out and control myself, and I feel like kbin supports that mindset well. I understand why some would want to defederate and close themselves off, but I don't want kbin.social turning into beehaw. If you're looking for a more controlled instance, join them
These platforms are still pretty early in their infancy and I don't think they were quite mature enough to take on this sudden influx of users (through no fault of anyone). There's going to be some growing pains but we'll get through it and this platform will get better from it
I don't think that you fully understand the scale of illegal stuff that is transiting on the fediverse, and by illegal I mean "FBI illegal". You don't want it stored on Ernest's servers. Some instances are blocked for a very good reason, even you would agree.
BTW I already switch to defederate and I blocked NSFW, but we all have to take into consideration the risks for Ernest, because in fine he is the one hosting the pictures.
Defederating from problematic instances that are promoting illegal activity that would attract the FBI is a bit different from "Defederate, massively".
Intentionally or not you're making it sound like if we don't follow beehaw's lead the FBI is going to be after ernest, who lives in a different continent and even has the project partially funded on a grant
To the contrary: defederation from instances in situations like this is very much in the spirit of the the fediverse. Not attaching NSFW tags to NSFW content is a major moderation fail by lemmynsfw, and restricting content from badly-moderated instances until they get things cleaned up is something that frequently happens.
You're confusing "do not massively defederate" with "do not defederate at all"
We should defederate from obviously problematic instances. We should not defederate in the fashion that beehaw is
That's a completely different statement than the top levels "defederate from all adult content".
I wouldn't call it a fail per se considering how there's NSFW literally in the URL. If your whole instance is about NSFW content, then marking individual content NSFW becomes moot.
That said there should definitely be instance level NSFW flags for federation purposes.
kbin allows you to disable federation on your front end and also to block specific domains if you so wish. I assume the philosophy for now is to handle it on a per-user basis.
I've blocked a NSFW server where stuff was untagged
I don't want kbin to blanked ban adult content. There's filters for exactly that reason if you don't want to see it. If that's not enough, then go to beehaw or other highly restrictive instances.
How do you deal with pedo content? How?
If you have no solution (and you haven't) then do as beehaw does and deferate the content. Why do you think that those people use this network? Why? Take a wild guess.