373
Dawkin it for my AI (lemmy.world)

I'm pulling the "twitter is a microblog" rule even though twitter is pretty mega now, hope that's ok.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 13 hours ago

Exactly, which is why it's IMO a bit presumptuous to say with confidence that humans are conscious while LLMs are categorically not conscious. We don't even really know what that means.

I don't personally think LLMs are conscious, at least not yet or not to the same degree that humans are. But that's purely based on vibe, it's not something I can know. We need to figure out what consciousness really is and how to measure it before we can say we know this with any certainty.

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

It is not presumptuous at all. Inference to the best explanation is how you know (almost) anything.

  1. This table isn’t conscious.

This is my justified belief. No inferential claim is guaranteed and all objective claims are inferential (which is why scientific claims aren’t absolute).

That said, I have strong reasons to think that tables aren’t conscious. They might be, but I’m epistemically compelled to believe otherwise.

  1. ChatGPT isn’t conscious.

Ditto. It would be irrational for me to believe otherwise given the strong evidence.

That you “don’t know for sure” is an implied disclaimer for every scientific claim.

If the evidence is ambiguous, we say so. Regarding ChatGPTs consciousness, the evidence is unambiguous.

  1. I am conscious.

This is a non-inferential claim that I know through direct contact with reality. It is a priori.

[-] Micromot@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This is pretty much what Descartes meant with "cogito ergo sum". The only thing you can be sure are 100% real, are your thoughts

[-] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

Right, your own thoughts. So I can be sure I'm conscious, but you commenting "I know I'm conscious" on here doesn't tell me anything about your consciousness. The robot can do that, and does.

[-] Micromot@piefed.social 2 points 8 hours ago

This is just the stuff you do in philosophy class. There is no right answer really. You can never be sure of something being conscious or even be sure that it exists in reality. We can just react to what we perceive.

this post was submitted on 03 May 2026
373 points (100.0% liked)

Microblog Memes

11432 readers
1677 users here now

A place to share screenshots of Microblog posts, whether from Mastodon, tumblr, ~~Twitter~~ X, KBin, Threads or elsewhere.

Created as an evolution of White People Twitter and other tweet-capture subreddits.

RULES:

  1. Your post must be a screen capture of a microblog-type post that includes the UI of the site it came from, preferably also including the avatar and username of the original poster. Including relevant comments made to the original post is encouraged.
  2. Your post, included comments, or your title/comment should include some kind of commentary or remark on the subject of the screen capture. Your title must include at least one word relevant to your post.
  3. You are encouraged to provide a link back to the source of your screen capture in the body of your post.
  4. Current politics and news are allowed, but discouraged. There MUST be some kind of human commentary/reaction included (either by the original poster or you). Just news articles or headlines will be deleted.
  5. Doctored posts/images and AI are allowed, but discouraged. You MUST indicate this in your post (even if you didn't originally know). If an image is found to be fabricated or edited in any way and it is not properly labeled, it will be deleted.
  6. Absolutely no NSFL content.
  7. Be nice. Don't take anything personally. Take political debates to the appropriate communities. Take personal disagreements & arguments to private messages.
  8. No advertising, brand promotion, or guerrilla marketing.

RELATED COMMUNITIES:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS