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Trump says it’s ‘treasonous’ to say US not winning war in Iran
(www.independent.co.uk)
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What even are the conditions for victory?
Permanent distraction from the fact that Trump trafficked and raped dozens of young girls with Jeffrey Epstein. That's the entire goal.
Israel forced Trump into this war because they have that proof of him raping children hanging over his head. Israel is just your standard genocidal imperialistic religious fanatical fascist regime that views any Muslims as "animals" or "subhumans" (their own words).
Death to all brown people... Oh you mean in war? No body knows.
The goal of the war? Establishing Greater Israel. Netanyahu is really keen on the neighbor's land. Trump is just there as the muscle, barely know what's going on and just acts tough to protect his reputation with his flunkies.
Disruption of their nuclear weapons program
If that were the case, they wouldn't have killed the Ayatollah, the one man preventing Iran room having a nuclear weapon with his religious Fatwa against nuclear weapons.
Yeah sure the Ayatollah was taking a sabbatical when they were mass producing that enriched uramium
Trump has single-handedly encouraged them to develop this program by destroying the Iran nuclear deal in his first term.
This is ALL his fucking fault.
That's like saying Obama encouraged them by bringing it up as well
What? The Obama deal ensured they could enrich past nuclear power plant levels which is about 85% bellow bomb making. And getting to 95% or greater enrichment is extremely difficult.
Yeah, they showed you how difficult it really is back in '24
You're betting the farm on it they won't ever be able to technically do what a bunch of pioneers did 80 years ago?
Lol back in '24 you mean when Trump canceled the deal? I don't think that's the argument you think it is. And once again. All our actions have proven is they need a nuke for self determination.
Trump 'cancelled the deal' in '24 ? I think all of this just goes a bit too fast for you...
If that was the case we would have kept the Obama deal
Yeah but that was a brown person’s deal and we can’t have that.
Maybe the reason he canceled that deal was so that he had an excuse to manufacture pretense later.
I don't think he has that much foresight, but maybe the people pulling his strings do...
Netanyahu might.
That's what I said.
Multiple problems with that deal as well, sadly enough
Ya because that's how deals work... The fact that one took years and thousands of experts from all over the world to broker is testimony to how dumb this notion that Iran doesn't have the right get something back in negotiations is laughable. Also inserting that they don't have the right to self determination via self defense is also insulting to everyone involved.
It's insulting not to want a bunch of murdering religious nutjobs to have nukes?
Maybe they should free their people before I'll entertain the thought that they have 'the right' to such horrible weapons
Are you taking about Israel?
Because the Ayatollah had a fatwa against nukes, which is the sole reason it didn't have one.
Is it ok for them to have nukes because the ayatollah said no on tv?
Also wanted to add the Obama deal prevented them from getting nukes. You know how I know that? I read the fucking reports from the international inspectors. Iran passed every search and were complying with the deal. Trump threw it out and started bombing again. Not Iran. Where are you getting your news?! Seriously. You are either willfully ignorant or a troll.
What would happen to the enrichment limitations in 2031 under the Obama deal?
Maybe another deal. Maybe a authentic revolution by the people. Maybe they would have gotten a nuke. Maybe maybe maybe. That doesn't justify killing innocent people today. Grow up.
Yeah, one of those is not like the other ;-)
So, who should have nukes? Just America and their allies? Every country has seen that as soon as they lose nuclear capability they crumble from imperialism, so why would they give up their weapons?
Ideally Iran or NK or Russia (or America) wouldn't have nuclear weapons, but that's not reality.
Every increase makes it worse, especially when it's murderous religious dictatorships
Again, Israel fits that description better.
Stop being racist.
Vatican city can fit that description better for what I care.
Why would that make you want Iran to have nuclear weapons?
I think a regional nuclear counterweight to the nuclear armed child torturing and murdering apartheid state that is currently actively involved in a genocide and multiple military conquests for lebensraum would be a very good thing.
Every increase? We are a murderous religious dictatorship. Once again other dictatorships have nukes. Other nations have nukes. Only one has ever used them to kill. We are not the good guys here.
We're the religious nut jobs dude. (and Isreal) Free their people? Who has more imprisoned citizens? Iran or America? Do you have any idea how Iran's nut jobs can to power? We are making the same fucking mistakes we did 100 years ago. Also, only one nation has used nukes in violence. Acting as if we have the moral high ground here is alarming.
Why would you want to compare them to the US to justify them getting nuclear weapons
Why do you assume they are less virtues than us? Why do you assume they'll use them? Because those with true power. The ones dropping bombs on girl schools while trying to hold the high ground.
If you're worried about bombs on girl schools, I suggest you don't look too deep into how the government of Iran runs things
Again, why would you take the US as some standard for deciding these murderers should get access to nukes?
Stop justifying and excusing terrorism against children.
8 know how the government of Iran runs and thinks. That's why I've come to my opinion. As an American I'm concerned about our murderous tendencies and actions. We have a literal pedophile as a president and you are concerned about the morality of Iran. And once again their leaders aren't threatening to wipe out whole civilization and have the ability to do so. And it's not like the Arabs in the region have a legitimate reason to hate the west or anything. Grow up.
Yeah I'm starting to feel this is more about the US than it is about anything else for you
I'm more concerned about the USA's nuclear weapons at this point. Why can they have them, but Iran can't?
As few as possible imo