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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An overdue existential crisis, or moment of clarity, caused by a lifetime of routine alienation between the consumer, the product, the store, the factory pen and butchery.

Mom should read Marx, and The Jungle.

Maybe pick up hunting, if she wants to see what it takes from her own pov.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 19 hours ago

I was pressured into going hunting a few times with my dad growing up, and I ended up killing a few deer. It's something I'm not proud of, one among many things I came to regret later in life.

I used to think "If you can't or won't kill it personally, then you shouldn't eat it" was an argument in support of hunting. Now I think of it as an argument in support of vegetarianism. Funny how perspective changes everything...

What's also funny is how as a society we say things like "kids who kill bugs grow up to be psychopaths," yet we totally normalize hunting as a sport. Why is that? For that matter, why don't we say "anyone who eats animal flesh is a psychopath?"

As if being five steps removed from the suffering and death somehow abstracts the cruelty so that one can indulge in the pleasure of what is produced by it without bearing any moral culpability in the processes by which that meat arrived on one's plate?

Why is it only the forms of cruelty that society doesn't accept as cultural pastimes that are considered taboo? I should rephrase. Why does society accept some forms of cruelty and not others?

[-] kazerniel@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

As if being five steps removed from the suffering and death somehow abstracts the cruelty so that one can indulge in the pleasure of what is produced by it without bearing any moral culpability in the processes by which that meat arrived on one’s plate?

This, and as a vegan it infuriates/despairs me when people whom I otherwise like and respect just never turn a thought towards this dissonance in their lives. They may care deeply about social injustices and oppression, but see no problem with continuing to participate in the mass torture and murder of non-human sentient creatures. So by now when someone says they "love animals", my first (internal) reaction is a bitter snort, because it's extremely rare that such people are even vegetarian, let alone vegan.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The principal difference ia that you see the death of a non-sapient animal as murder and I ascribe it the same ethical weight whether a person or a lion does it. It's not "dissonance" it's a foundational disagreement on inherent morality, our place in nature, and the "value of life".

There's lots to complain about regarding the factory farming industry (environmental impact foremost in my mind, and the needlessly inhumane conditions they're raised in) but eating meat is not imo itself a cruel act.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 points 15 hours ago

This is why I prefer chicken, I know I can take one on 1v1.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

You'd be surprised, those descendants of T-rex can be fierce!

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

Kidding, but I fully agree with your comments. I write a lot about the public perceptions on nature in my work. The stories we tell ourselves sometimes, I swear.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago
[-] kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

my last straw was Meet Your Meat

[-] o1011o@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

For busy moms who don't have time for a full documentary, try 3minutes.wtf.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

+1 to the existential exploration.

A little more lot and she'll eventually stumble in to "Where did this existence come from? Why is there matter to have a universe, why is there any existence at all? If God exists, how was he created?"

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Or she is on a few different neurospectra, and gets species dysphoria as a regular thing and finds it funny as well.

But yeah after stopping being a vegetarian I went and killed a lot of animals for other people to balance the scales. Now I prefer if my terrestrial meat had a name, not number.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep, not a hunter myself, but I do respect someone that actually does the work, does it well, follows the rules, ain't an insane gun nut, lets the local butcher sell the bits they don't want for themself.

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