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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

What about that shitload of money his buddy trump gave him? Wasn't that 40 billion?

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

He is a Catholic, converted to Judaism, and fully Zionist. Most likely he funnel that money back to trump through deals with Israel.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Less than $900 per person.

[-] xta@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

you are using the word billion incorrectly, a billion is a million million, and it was 20 thousand millons, not 40.

In English, "billion" means " a thousand million". "un billón" in Spanish is "a trillion" in English

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's the British usage of the word. Possibly elsewhere, but when the US uses that word we refer to 1000 × a million. Still entirely uncertain as to how that linguistic difference came about.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Literally no English squeaking country uses the British long scale anymore. It was nonsensical and problematic. The US short scale has been adopted as the English standard in every country on earth for the purpose of English measurement.

So if a country even if their native language is not English. When using English for official reasons uses the short scale. It's only when using non English languages does the old long scale get used. Which is mostly a relic of British imperialism.

Even then a number of countries have started using us short scale even in their native language.

Us short scale is simpler and more understandable. It's the same reason countries use metric. It makes more sense.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The Brits use short scale nowadays like every English speaking country.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In Canada we see US billion sometimes. It gets confusing.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For which use case? Is the billion = a million million standard, or is the thousand million standard?

Also how did we end up with two standards of such a basic numerical name?

Edit: their original comment read "Non-English Anglosphere," hence my first question not making much sense any more.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

English->English

French->American

Due to US market size, theirs is becoming more standard.

Like metric, the US swapped to the French version because of their hate of the British following the split.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Ok, see I knew French and Latin used the 1000 of the previous magnitude word is the next magnitude word, I wasn't sure if that was standard or not. Seems that it is the Brits who changed things.

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Possibly because Americans were so keen to call themselves billionaires they lowered the requirement.

Similar to how they pronounce "Aluminium" the same as "Platinum" to make it sound like a precious metal.

This isn't a criticism. If I'm being kind the real reason is that less separation between "million" and "billion" is functionally more useful, as well as aspirational.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We spell that word aluminum, not aluminium. That's why we pronounce it that way. Why we spell it differently? No clue.

Also it's not just a billion. A trillion is a thousand billion on this side of the pond, and has been since well before any Americans were even close to being billionaires. We just use a smaller standard for counting, but that's also the standard French and Latin used, so I don't think it has anything to do with us.

[-] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Funfact the British USE to say that word the way Americans do now. Then changed later. Americans way of say aluminum is actually the original and accurate way that the British invented.

Why y'all changed is beyond me. We are using it the way YOU wanted us to originally.

Same with the word soccer. The Brits invented it, and then changed their minds and now go around telling people its football, not soccer. Motherfuckers, this is your fault!

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

In part it was because it was named out of standard through a misunderstanding but then it wasn't corrected...

You spell it differently so that you can pronounce it differently, as I say, to make it sound like a rare and valuable metal.

It is pure marketing.

Aluminium used to be hard to obtain. It was a rare metal and then some smart bastard worked out how to extract it using electrolysis and it became as common as dirt.

Some people had invested heavily in it as a precious metal and overnight their investment was worthless, so hence the reluctance to rebrand.

Nobody thinks aluminum is a rare and valuable metal.

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

In the mid-1800s aluminium was more expensive than gold.

Here is an article about it

Okay? Nobody alive now was alive then, so I'm not sure what's your point.

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Go back and read the comment thread.

We are talking about the origin of the divergence of an English term. That's what we are talking about.

Yes, you are right, it happened a long time ago. Well done. That's the point. It's what we were talking about.

Stop framing your poor comprehension skills as conversation.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ok, I can see that. There are a couple of State Capitol Buildings whose domes are covered in Aluminum Leaf, which would now be called aluminum foil, and I have square yards of the stuff in my kitchen and garage. At the time they were built aluminum was still difficult to get, less than two decades after they were built electrolysis guy did his thing, lol.

I knew that at one point King Louis the somethingth or other, had a full set of aluminumware to serve extremely important guests with. Like, not just cutlery. Plates, saucers, bowls, cups and goblets. The less distinguished guests had to eat and drink out of platinum, gold, or (gasp) silver.

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I didn't know that about King Louis (n) ... That's a great fact!

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

It's ten thousand lakh actually, or a hundred crore.

[-] Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Quit throwing these fake Star Trek currencies around!

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 1 week ago

I think it was a line of credit and it they already paid off this debt.

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