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[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

What about this is particularly "co-ordinated"? I'm not in favour of this at all but conspiratorial thinking is unhelpful.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

Every single part of this is coordinated. The people do not want this but the governments are pushing it through top down.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

That's not what coordinated means.

[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah if the people didn't want it they simply wouldn't give their kids smartphones in such large numbers. Or give them unsupervised computer access.

It's just the conservatives virtue signalling.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

The headline literally says that Macron is pushing for a coordinated approach with the rest of the EU. From the article; "The main goal is to ​act in ​a ⁠coordinated manner and push the European Commission, ​in the positive sense ​of ⁠the term, to move ahead at the same pace ⁠as ​member states." I'm not particularly sure why you're dismissing this as conspiratorial. It's just out in the open.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, pushing for. That means it's not yet. The commenter in the OP says it's "already so coordinated" as if there's a shadowy force behind it all pulling the strings.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Do you think it doesn't require coordination to have a meeting? Without coordination, no one shows up.

The coordination is already happening and after this it will likely increase.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Sure, if calling for a meeting is "already SO coordinated" as to be worth mentioning, I suppose.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

It's absolutely worth mentioning that they are coordinated enough to all meet up to discuss their plans for us. If this was a fringe idea it wouldn't go anywhere, everyone is ready to consider the idea even if they still need to be convinced to implement it.

[-] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

What’s coordinated about it is that it can’t possibly be so universal that people believe this is a good thing and it “saves the children”. I do believe this is good and even I can’t see a clear reason for why so many governments would suddenly be supporting it. Australia, who first implemented it at a national scale, has not yet proven the benefits of it.

But what you best believe is that there are lobbying groups backed by social media giants evil enough Zuckerberg that they would be throwing money at politicians across the western world to implement this.

This is not a “leak user’s ID” thing. That’s a byproduct of implementing this in a terrible way. This is a “social media giants don’t want the responsibility of what they’ve done to the generation of children they have mentally ruined but do want even more data and control” thing.

Think about this - Facebook has had a policy themselves since the beginning that under-13s are not allowed on their platform. Yet, as recently revealed in court documents from a case in California, Zuck himself pushed his engineering to create the platform to be more aggressively addictive towards under-13s. Why would he do that? Why not use all their AI chops to discover who the under-13s are and kick them off the platform? I imagine it would be fairly easy for them to do so.

But would it be profitable? No.

This age-gate is a two pronged approach - Facebook gets to steal even more data about you, and eventually gets to absolve themselves of the responsibility of destroying mental health in teens, because, “hey, it’s age-gated now!”

this post was submitted on 15 Apr 2026
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