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Violence and threats of it do not improve society. Don't normalize this Trumpian lawless behavior.
Objectively false, and propaganda to preserve the sate's monopoly on violence.
Remember how healthcare denials went down for months after that United Healthcare executive was killed?
As far as the trolley problem goes, whoever killed the guy objectively preserved more lives by doing so
What do you mean "whoever killed the guy?" Everyone knows it was Sam Hyde.
Apart from United Healthcare rescinding a policy to charge for anaesthetic if an operation goes slightly wrong after their CEO was shot?
You know what does improve society? Open, wanton violence against the lower classes by the wealthy without any repercussions whatsoever. 🙂↕️
Alternatively: what he is doing is causing immense suffering on a societal level and if he stopped doing it many people would live when they would otherwise die.
If the government is unable or unwilling to stop him, or even stop accelerating what he’s doing, then there are other options.
Then it's time to vote in a new government.
Seriously, cool it with the violence-worship
fascism can't be voted away
Give me one argument for that statement which cannot be equally applied to communism, anarchism or islamism by MAGA diehards to justify killing innocent people.
Well killing is a bit overkill. But there needs to be protests and a unified public for killing and voting to actually do something positive. Fascists can't be voted away because voting alone is useless
I'm sure if you just beg, and plead enough, and if you say how much they hurt you, and how unfair it is...
...they won't bust out the lube.
I mean randomly killing people in power without a proper basis just gets them replaced by equally bad people. That's just basic materialism
The bad people hesitate to step forward, when you just keep killing them.
Why do you think the bad people exist and where they are coming from?
They form out of the sewers, and crawl out of them.
I don't know, but I know how to treat that...
Your standard mugger/psychopath does not have generational wealth on that level.
Keep eliminating the ones born with power, and they do run out.
we are not talking about communism or anarchism or islamism (?). they are totally different things.
us imperialists will find a way to justify their actions one way or another and that should not influence the ideas we discuss to rid ourselves of them.
You should cool it with the voting out fascism worship.
It's not worship. It's a last resort, and these clowns are removing all other viable options.
Uh-huh. And Trump had no choice but to threaten to bomb Iran "to the stone age".
This is about violence towards the powerful. Not the powerful using violence.
Are you seriously so dim as to confuse those two things with each other??
And us threatening him is the same thing? What the fuck are you talking about?
Ah yes, like how Hitler was voted out. Why didn't we think of that?!
What immense suffering is caused by LLMs?
Are you talking about the water and energy usage? Because that is more so caused by Capitalism than it is by technology.
The majority of the people in my department were laid off this year and replaced with AI. The AI is doing a terrible job, but it's virtually free.
Art and music industries are also under intense pressure right now.
LLM's are being used to replace quality and creativity with slop. It is the ultimate enshittifier for society right now, and the only ones profiting are the wealthy and powerful.
Yeah, and guns don't kill people. People kill people!
You're just confused about violence.
It's violent to price people out of a dignified existence, it's just banal so you find it less scary.
Violence is defined by the World Health Organization in the WRVH as “the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation”.
For those in the back:
Since when is Scam Altman on Lemmy??
not with these piddly, passant efforts, but mass, violence has often accomplished mass civil change for the better!
The French Revolution (1789) — Violent overthrow of the monarchy and aristocracy dismantled feudalism and established the principle of popular sovereignty, which reverberated across Europe for a century.
The American Revolution (1775–1783) — Armed insurrection against British rule produced one of the first modern constitutional republics.
The Haitian Revolution (1791–1804) — The only successful slave revolt in history, producing the first Black republic and striking a massive blow against the Atlantic slave trade.
The Glorious Revolution (1688) — Though relatively brief, it involved armed invasion and overthrow of James II, producing constitutional monarchy and the English Bill of Rights.
Viva la Revolution!
What made them catastrophic?
**Violence spread into civilian life. ** This meant famine, disease, refugees, and economic ruin kill civilians disproportionately.
if your argument is that wars are destructive and problematic... eh.. heh.. nobody on earth, ever, will debate that. I don't know what you're trying to win there, but.. eh...
anyway, still, even with the lost civil wars among those (a couple?) they were all worth fighting, (most because they were won). civil freedom is always worth more than servile domination under authoritarian totalitarianm. I prefer freedom of speech and worship to being forced to worship Stalin-- and, especially, the right to say that openly, without fear of being killed for saying so.
or saying, openly, that I love sucking another man's cock-- which, even in the United States, I was afraid to say so even 25 years ago-- and, I'm afraid that I may no longer be able to openly say perhaps 5 years from now
Not sure what your point was, but, ultimately, your post backs up mine: through all the sacrifice, the payoff is worth it!
That's easy to say for the living, and for people who have never witnessed this kind of shit first hand.
I'm not the person you've been replying to, and I share your concerns, and the belief that we are rapidly running put of options. But I'm not comfortable making such sweeping chipper statements about this stuff when I've been privileged enough to never experience actual war.
so... you're comfortable assuming things you couldn't possibly know about people you've never met while making a bunch of statements about things you couldn't possibly know in contexts and places you've never been while openly and proudly admitting it?
do you expect a prize or medal for that?
No, I'm comfortable assuming that someone who had actually been through war wouldn't be so casual speaking of it.
Also, a bunch of statements? Motherfucker that was my first comment this thread.
If you're ready for bodies in the streets, more power to you. But get off the chair and get the fuck to it instead of ushering others into the grinder.
Calm down wizardbeard… it sounds like you just got stuffed in your locker again, but no one wants another school shooting
Good luck with clown school buddy.
of course you have the mentality of someone still in school-- or who should be, if you hadn't been kicked out.
good luck getting a 4-star rating on your next drop off or delivery or whatever shitty gig job you have, loser
If we do the violence and the threats to the people fucking us then it absolutely will help society.