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[-] rozodru@piefed.world 32 points 6 days ago

Imagine telling someone even like a year or two ago that in this war Iran would be the "good guys".

and it's one of those conflicting good guys cause...well...Iran and all the shit they've done to their people. I want to cheer them on for doing exactly this to data centers but at the same time I feel very guilty for doing so.

[-] hayvan@piefed.world 44 points 6 days ago

More like antihero. Iran regime is evil, plain and open. But in this evil vs evil conflict they are the underdogs. In sheer military strength it's not even a close match. They are making do with what they have and hitting the bigger evil where they can hurt.

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 22 points 6 days ago

yes, antihero that's what I was looking for. thank you.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The "bigger evil" eh? The US is the one who killed 10 thousand+ protesters? And the US is the one where women are beaten to death in the streets for showing their faces? Where LGBTQ people worry about a lot more than "can I play sports or use a public restroom?"

Lemmy has gone stupid over Iran. The two aren't even close. Iran isn't a "hero" in any sense of the word.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Iran isn't threatening the rest of the world though, and Magastan has killed several orders of magnitude more people on every continent. Including its own citizens.

Also, Magastan is directly responsible for the Iranian regime coming to power in the first place. So these atrocities committed are also blood on Magastan hands

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I like "Magastan", going to borrow that.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I am pretty sure I borrowed it in the same way from someone else. Don't think I am witty enough to have come up with that myself, but I don't recall where I saw it.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago

The bigger evil is the one that overthrew their democratically elected government in 1953 to protect British oil interests.

Women wore skirts, there was freedom and education for all but their government wanted the oil under their country and BP wanted to not pay a fair amount for it.

This is chickens coming home to roost after 60+ years for the CIA and MI6.

[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

This is chickens coming home to roost

Not even close. Would need to find those BP execs to start.

[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

BP was just the company getting the oil. The US and Britain wanted a destabilized Middle East, the govt's are to blame.

Now the US fell into a trap. Now they have had to remove sanctions on Iranian oil and Iran has started selling their oil for more money and in Chinese Yuan. They are making money on every barrel they allow through the strait and like it or not they are now a rising world power in opposition to a power in decline, the USA. I hope that that new world power will not be too cruel to it's people and others but with the position they have been in for the last 60 years, I can't really blame them if they are a cruel power to those in power in the region.

I don't support them being brutal towards those who took them down so long ago and their allies but I'm not surprised.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Speaking of chickens coming home to roost, why did Oracle build expensive data centers there of all places? Are they just effing stupid?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

So the "bigger evil" isn't the regime doing the things you say are evil.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I know, reading is hard, but you should try.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago

The US is the one who bankrolled, enabled and protected a literal genocide, which is worse than everything you just said.

[-] Jiral@lemmy.org 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The bloodthirsty regime in Iran is not a "hero" in any word indeed. Nor is the US that has engaged in this unjustified aggression and early on killed a school full of pupils. As it stands I don't know how large the blood toll is, likely the Iranian regime has still more blood of its own people on its hands, but the US is working on getting there. Let's see how long this 3 days special military operation will take.

[-] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 5 points 6 days ago

They are showing the rest of the world one needs not bow to the neonazis. (even if it's a religious nutcase regime showing so)

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 16 points 6 days ago

Imagine telling someone even like a year or two ago that in this war Iran would be the "good guys".

They always have been in conflicts with America/Israel. As it turns out, what America and Israel want for Iran is somehow even worse than the Islamic Republic.

[-] voaw@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

USrael is bombing schools, hospitals, residential buildings, water processing plants, orphanages, ambulances, and journalists in Iran, Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon. Iran is targeting mega corporations, US bases, IsraHell, military commanders, and politicians AND they are making a ceasefire contingent on ending the genocide in Gaza. I think it’s safe to say Iran are the good guys here. If you believe they slaughtered 80,000 protesters in 48 hours, you’re drinking the CIA koolaid, friend.

https://thegrayzone.com/2026/02/24/ned-congress-starlinks-iran-violence/

[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Iran doing some good things does not mean that it's not a bad regime.

[-] voaw@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Why are you repeating Trump’s war propaganda for free, helping him and Israel slaughter civilians, journalists, and healthcare workers, and destroy schools, hospitals, and homes? Calling Iran’s democratically-elected government a “bad regime” is not only uninformed and childish but it is harmful—it is helping to manufacture consent among the public of the Western world to support or tolerate the continuation of these evil war crimes being committed against Iran by USrael.

[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Two things can be true. The Iranian regime is bad. The US regime is bad and started an unjust war.

Also, democratically elected? I must have slept through the last supreme leader elections

[-] voaw@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Just because you weren’t aware of it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Masoud Pezeshkian won the 2024 Iranian presidential election on July 6 and was inaugurated July 28. Pezeshkian, who is still president, has criticized the Iranian government’s handling of protesters in the past, is an advocate for the rights of ethnic minorities in Iran (like the Kurds and Azeris), and has appointed two women as Vice Presidents, one as a minister in his cabinet, and a woman as his spokesperson.

The Ayatollah is the equivalent of the Queen of England + the Archbishop of Canterbury and has both political and religious power, but the president is elected by the people of Iran and runs the country along with various councils. According to the UN, the official leader of Iran is the president, not the Ayatollah.

Maybe try to diversify your media intake so you’re not only consuming narratives manufactured to support US imperialism and hegemony (I.e. billionaire-owned mainstream media). I recommend reading President Pezeshkian’s message to the American people he posted the other day. We would be lucky to have a president as intelligent and humane as him.

https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190

[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

I get my info from plenty of sources, I'm just neither an idiot nor some shill, I hadn't decided where you fall but if you think the president of Iran is the one calling the shots I'll go with idiot.

[-] voaw@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Do you have sources to back this up or are you just going on vibes?

[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Sources like the fact that Iran openly states that foreign policy is decided by the office of the Supreme Leader? Or that Presidential candidates have to be approved by the (unelected) guardian council? Or do you mean a source for you being an idiot? Sadly I don't have that

[-] voaw@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Ok we’re talking about the elections not the candidate selection process. The only candidates we get to vote for in the US have to be approved by the shady dark money billionaire class and the lobby of an evil genocidal ethnostate. If it is indeed true that the Ayatollah has to approve candidates in Iran, I’d rather take my chances with one well-known dude with some degree of morals than with a bunch of faceless warmongering capitalist pigs. But I’m just an anti-imperialist idiot that wants peace in the Middle East so don’t listen to me.

[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Actually we're talking about it being irrelevant whether the election or the candidate selection are free and fair because, as previous established, the Supreme leader is the one calling the shots

[-] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 6 days ago

You dont really have to consider them the good guys, but they're the ones who are defending themselves against terrorism

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