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[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It's not. I asked their mother. But asked isn't even really the right word. I discussed proposing to their child with them first out of empathy, courtesy, respect, just plain demonstrating the ability to have real life adult conversations. I think using the idiom of "Asking for permission" really has some pedants in this thread in a twist.

[-] Tenniswaffles 5 points 17 hours ago

That's a nice personal anecdote. But your personal experience has no bearing on the general pervasive attitude that been dragged on from the days when women were in fact legally the property of their fathers and then husbands.

Of course this attitude has changed and evolved over time, but it's still an attitude born from a place of extreme sexism and misogyny. And the amount of men who will ask a fathers permission or expect to be asked for permission for their daughter still comes from a place of still treating women as something to be possessive over due to their gender, is way to damned high.

Your personal experience doesn't change the existence of the pervasive attitude of women being possessions.

[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 9 points 11 hours ago

A marriage is between two people and their families. It's always personal and anecdotal. Fighting the patriarchy and gender stereotypes doesn't always happen on grand civic scales, it happens in many many boring everyday personal anecdotal interactions.

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