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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 426 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A one day wait period to install an app on your mobile pocket computer. Fucken bullshit.

Edit: to all the "its one time" defenders, its one time for now. Stop falling for it. It always starts with an inch.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 109 points 5 months ago

It used to be no time at all. You could just do it. From that perspective they’ve already taken a mile.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

From zero to any nonzero value is infinite miles

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I mean, it always starts with an inch but what people dont get is that compared to the 2000's we are a mile deep and compared to rhe 80's we are already in a dystopia.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

In the '80s we'd need a building to do a fraction what our phones do now. Even in the 2000s they would qualify as a supercomputer. I guarantee you wouldn't be able to install whatever you wanted on any of those computers and even if you could, a days wait would be lightning fast in comparison.

[-] Nester@feddit.uk 36 points 5 months ago

It appears that the "security wait" will be a one time thing when you first allow installing from unverified sources. After enabling it it will remain on indefiniately.

Not quite as bad as I was fearing, but will kinda annoying.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 135 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Not quire as bad"? My dude, you have to ask for permission from a corporation to install an app on your phone that you supposedly own and paid for. On what planet is this not awful?

[-] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 12 points 5 months ago

This is happening to PCs now too, eg. with the OS 'age-gating' laws that IMO only exist to quell competition for MS, Google, and Apple.

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[-] 007ace@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

It looks like a glorified 'developer mode' switch that has the 1 day wait to prevent someone from grabbing your phone, turning on sideloading, installing some hazardous app, and then having their way with your info. This appears to be the best of both worlds.

Like when unlocking your bootloader wiped your info. Just do it first. not a year in to using your device, if thats your plan.

If they're already into your phone there's so many legitimate ways to extract your data. The ability to sideload an app won't impact that.

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[-] CEbbinghaus@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

Sure. Because as we know people grabbing your unlocked phone to sideload apps onto it is an almost daily occurrence. Which of us hasn't had a stranger install a cryto miner while we looked away for a second.

Get real. This is an imaginary problem affecting the 0.01% they are using to tell you this action is justifiable. Getting more control is the aim of their game

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lmfao. I'll invent a better way and it will only take me negative 50 years to do it.

Passcode.

There is absolutely nothing positive about this. It is only nefarious, full stop. I could open a million dollar restaurant that served microwaved cat shit, but on the menu it's called "Tbone Steak" and with your logic, people wouldn't notice the difference.

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[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 7 points 5 months ago

When has your imaginary scenario ever been a problem? Can you name a single example where that has happenned? Stop making excuses for corporations fucking over their users.

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[-] magguzu@lemmy.pt 7 points 5 months ago

Until you have to help someone install an app not available to them.

Xfinity stream for example is not on the Chromecast play store, even though an Android build exists on the Fire TV store. I had to guide my dad through this. In this case it wouldn't be possible for 24 hours.

Had a similar issue with an app not available in a friend's region.

I could live with the whole flow minus the delay. This is shit, just pure shit.

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Well if you're in the US you can head down to your LGS, buy a Glock 19 and do some plinking while you wait for the software to install on your phone :/

[-] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it is a reasonable compromise. They could have made it a day wait for any and every time you wanted to side load like this. It prevents accidental or malicious activation, while also giving you the feature you want with the smallest of roadblocks as confirmation you want it. And you only have to do it one time. I don’t think it’s the burden you do.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 99 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People this willing to let a self-enriching corporate nanny state erode their ability to use the products they paid for terrify me.

People this willing to fall for the blatant corporate strategy of "We'll announce something unthinkable but then backpedal to something "only" terrible (and then probably do the unthinkable thing later now that we've encroached further and softened the blow)" for the millionth time confound me.

Show some dignity; jesus christ. This isn't a "compromise". Me breaking into your house, threatening to kill you, but then "only" hitting you with a bat and leaving isn't a "compromise".

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 months ago

In the sales world, this effect is called "price anchoring" and is used by tons of companies. All those sales you see where something is "marked down 50%!" are using a manufacturers price that does exist in real life to get that 50% markdown. In reality, the sale price is just the actual price of the item but people see the "huge discount" and think they're getting a deal.

[-] ag10n@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Things like LineageOS are a workaround, not a solution.

The solution has to be legal, not technical. Companies have to be stopped from trying to fuck with users' property rights in the first place!

[-] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 10 points 5 months ago

Yup. I've heard this first about Home Assistant, but software like this often inadvertently acts like a pacifier for tech enthusiasts. We may have our neat solution for the moment and be content with that, but that doesn't help anyone else, or us in the long term. Things will get worse with no push-back.

Disclaimer: That's not to say that we shouldn't advocate for those tools in the meantime as well. We just shouldn't lose track of the actual problem.

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[-] grte@lemmy.ca 42 points 5 months ago

I don't need google telling me what I can put on this fucking phone I bought and paid for.

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[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 38 points 5 months ago

What is it a compromise between? People who think they own the thing they paid for and people who don't?

[-] markz@suppo.fi 7 points 5 months ago

Obviously we need to find a middle ground between owning the things we purchase, and not owning them. Having access, but making it annoying is a very reasonable option.

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 12 points 5 months ago

Why? We are paying full price for these devices and nothing in any agreement made at the time of purchase suggests that you don't own them. Why is it necessary to meet a middle ground between "you got what you paid for" and "you didn't"?

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago
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[-] Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus 25 points 5 months ago

A reasonable compromise would be not telling people what they can and can't do on devices they paid for. If Google wants that level of control, they can buy my phone for me.

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[-] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago

No. Fuck all of that. I will not have some fucking Corp tell me what I can install and when on my own goddamn hardware.

If they want to implement something like this, make it an opt-in toggle during device setup to put the phone into nanny mode

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

One day wait period to enable installing third party apps. Afterwards no extra wait time or verification.

[-] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

For now. Don't fight to give them an inch

[-] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

There shouldnt be any wait. Its stupid and completely arbitrary

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago

A one day wait period to install an app on your mobile pocket computer.

And that somehow supposed to stop users from inflicting their phones with virus software? Like, it does not make sense. Okay, force all devs to upload their IDs, no biggie (I guess). But do not lock users into the "tough luck, you cant sideload" system. 1 day wait will not prevent anything. They just added a mild annoyance for 24h, nothing more.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Forcing all devs to upload their IDs is not a no biggie

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