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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 426 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A one day wait period to install an app on your mobile pocket computer. Fucken bullshit.

Edit: to all the "its one time" defenders, its one time for now. Stop falling for it. It always starts with an inch.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 109 points 5 months ago

It used to be no time at all. You could just do it. From that perspective they’ve already taken a mile.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

From zero to any nonzero value is infinite miles

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 67 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I mean, it always starts with an inch but what people dont get is that compared to the 2000's we are a mile deep and compared to rhe 80's we are already in a dystopia.

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[-] Nester@feddit.uk 36 points 5 months ago

It appears that the "security wait" will be a one time thing when you first allow installing from unverified sources. After enabling it it will remain on indefiniately.

Not quite as bad as I was fearing, but will kinda annoying.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 135 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Not quire as bad"? My dude, you have to ask for permission from a corporation to install an app on your phone that you supposedly own and paid for. On what planet is this not awful?

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[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Well if you're in the US you can head down to your LGS, buy a Glock 19 and do some plinking while you wait for the software to install on your phone :/

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[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 165 points 5 months ago

Stop fucking calling it sideloading. It is called installing an app

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 121 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I teach digital literacy and 99% of unsavory software I encounter on people's phones come from the play store or app store

I will believe that they're serious about protecting users when I see them do something about the crap ton of borderline scam solitaire and weather apps infesting their stores

[-] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Your wish is fulfilled. Google now requires the government id, full biometrics and shared gps location to publish apps in the store.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

See, that is fine. If Google wants to have a safe and curated, high quality store, (which it doesn't), it is very logical that it would want to have the origins of software very well identified.

AS LONG AS it provides a mechanism for users to access other sources of software.

They are doing the opposite, allow bullshit apps in the "safe store" while hindering the independents.

We desperately need a decently competent OSS phone OS, if possible with a compatibility layer for Android apps.

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 109 points 5 months ago

So, the idea is to make the process as annoying as possible.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago

No. It's to make it very annoying. It's not as annoying as possible, because it could always be more annoying.

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[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 82 points 5 months ago

"This is Android's new 'advanced flow' for INSTALLING apps without verification". Sideloading is such a bullshit term made only to confuse consumers. They can wrap that in sparkling wrapper, but it's still security theater at best and definetly misleading. Apps from F-Droid or any other app 'store' are not any less safe than the ones at googles own offering.

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[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

To those who think it is a fair compromise: It is not.

Android already had one layer of this shit before. When installid freshly dowloaded apk, android would prompt you to confirm that the source of the apk is trusted. This was not like this before. Before you'd just install apk.

And I agree to a certain amount. But thing is, it was added for no specific reason. People who install apks form outside source, will keep doing it and they 99% of the time know what they are doing or being told to do so by someone who knows what they are doing.

Adding another layer to this wont solve the problem, except make users annoyed for 24h wait time. And this is only adding 1 layer now. Who the fuck knows what is going to be 1 year later. 5 years later?

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 59 points 5 months ago

So it's on the same scale as buying a gun in the states.

I didn't realise it was so dangerous.

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[-] sours@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 5 months ago

It's so weird that they don't take comments on the android developer blog post... Almost like they think it'll be hugely unpopular.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago

Google is the epitome of living long enough to become the villain.

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[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 37 points 5 months ago

Remember when you used to own shit? Wow. This is beyond fucked. Right now, it’s “one day”. But this is only because they got a shit load of backlash for disallowing ALL installing software without their permission. They WILL enact it. They’ll just wait until people are used to this. Then they will disallow it all.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 23 points 5 months ago

I think it was just a technique for them to pretend they listened to the community: first, announce something extreme; then, back down a bit.

People will think they won while they've just lost.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

In these scenarios, scammers exploit fear – using threats of financial ruin, legal trouble, or harm to a loved one – to create a sense of extreme urgency. They stay on the phone with victims, coaching them to bypass security warnings and disable security settings before the victim has a chance to think or seek help.

Does this actually happen? Or they just trying to manufacture consent to all this bullshit?

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

Do calls like that happen? Unfortunately, yes.

Is it a reason to lock down and enshittify every computing platform, every OS, every Internet-connected device until we own nothing, control nothing and can't install what we please?

It's an age old tactic of manipulation to start with something true, exaggerate the threat, and apply it everywhere possible.

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[-] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Sideloading"

Aka avoiding the monopoly app store with your own device

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 22 points 5 months ago

We should stop calling it sideloading as if it's something bad. It's just installing.

It's my device FFS!

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

it's very clear we have to escape Android and Google entirely, there is no other option.

Please donate to PostmarketOS if you have the means, it gives us a true alternative that is completely community owned, it just needs our support to become polished and to add support for more phones.

We have to support software that's still made for us. While we still can.

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[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

google doing their best to make me move to a different platform for my next phone.

anybody know of other options?

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago

Linux phones are about to get interesting.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

I've heard that 15 years ago

[-] Zink@programming.dev 20 points 5 months ago

Same with what we were hearing about the Linux desktop!

...yet here we are in 2026 and literally all my desktops have since become Linux, lol.

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[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

How about a 24 hour waiting period for me to harden my OS before Google slurps up all my data.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Important to note ADB is still unaffected

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

They already showed their hand. Doesn't matter if they've backed down. My new phone is going to use GrapheneOS and if this shit trickles down (Graphene is still based on Android) I'm going full Linux phone.

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[-] kalapala@sopuli.xyz 16 points 5 months ago

Is there EU petition against this already?

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