Every time I talk about this someone brings up Bilbo. He was a thief by employment, but he's not a rogue or a thief by D&D standards, which is exactly my point. His entire story was about not being a thief but figuring it out as he was going. Conan was called a thief, but he's not a rogue either. All the best thiefs aren't rogues.
Are you suggesting that adventurers should know how to adventure? Blasphemy!
I'm definitely saying the most famous thieves from fantasy and legend are never rogues.
Literally bilbo baggins you goddamn casual
Every time I talk about this someone brings up Bilbo. He was a thief by employment, but he's not a rogue or a thief by D&D standards, which is exactly my point. His entire story was about not being a thief but figuring it out as he was going. Conan was called a thief, but he's not a rogue either. All the best thiefs aren't rogues.
No True Roguesman type slander
The only rogue-esque quality Bilbo has is a species ability.
The DM gave him an OP magic item to compensate for his crappy build
Racism now smh
Bilbo is proof that anyone can fill a rogue's role (provided an obscenely powerful artifact falls into their lap).
And anyone can fill a cleric's role with enough potions and necromancy but that doesn't make wizards clerics
Y'all just classists tbh
This is why I held off on playing Skyrim until I actually took an arrow to the knee.