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[-] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 26 points 1 year ago

The court cases mean nothing if he's elected

[-] teft@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago

That's not true. He has 2 state indictments plus federal charges. If he were elected he could only pardon the federal charges. In fact he will probably be charged soon in a 3rd state so even more fucked.

[-] FlowVoid@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Two federal indictments, and one state (NY). Georgia will be the second state indictment.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

He's going to have to work to be elected during the court cases. He's already incredibly unpopular as is, and he'll have constant news dripping out about how big of a traitor he is and how he attempted a self coup. That's not going to help his poll numbers with anyone who wasn't already a MAGAt.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

That doesn't matter at all in today's political climate. Tribalism has taken over and they don't care if he's a criminal, Republicans will all vote for him simply because he's the nominee. The ONLY thing that matters is if the Dems can turn out enough of their people to beat him in the general.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That doesn't matter at all in today's political climate. Tribalism has taken over and they don't care if he's a criminal, Republicans will all vote for him simply because he's the nominee.

Wow, that's a really bad take considering that independents are what wins a candidate the election, since as you say, tribalists are going to vote for their tribe.

Independents aren't going to gargle trump's marbles in the face of overwhelming evidence of his incompetence, open fascism, and disdain for the electoral process, and there aren't nearly enough brain dead republicans to carry him in the general alone.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

What independents? That argument made sense 20 years ago, but that hasn't been a thing since the Obama administration.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/20/undecided-voters-2020-swing-election-independents-399505

TLDR: Political scientist did a study and wrote a book on independents. Most people who identify as independent actually lean towards one party and actually act MORE partisan than a party member. The "true" independents/undecideds completely withdraw from politics and just don't vote at all.

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