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[-] words_number@programming.dev 239 points 2 years ago

Um actually... Opera and Edge weren't always based on chromium!

[-] LeTak@lemm.ee 107 points 2 years ago

Chrome was not always based on chromeium. Chrome was based on Apple WebKit until 2013 when they forked WebKit and made the Blink engine.

[-] Dapado@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

Chromium was still the base before the WebKit/Blink fork. Chrome and Chromium were released simultaneously in 2008.

[-] fidodo@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Chromium has always existed. Originally it was wrapping web kit and later they forked web kit into blink and diverged from Web kit. Chromium is a level above the engine.

[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Wha- hold up... I'm not sure I understand...

Chrome was based on WebKit?

I'm not aware about the old stuff as much so if someone could fill me in...

[-] Dapado@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

WebKit is a rendering engine which is one of the major components of a web browser. Chrome/Chromium was released in 2008 using a modified version of WebKit as its rendering engine. Eventually in 2013 they created a fork of WebKit called Blink, which is the current rendering engine for Chrome/Chromium.

[-] exu@feditown.com 18 points 2 years ago

In more history, WebKit is a fork of KHTML. That's the reason why WebKit itself is open source.

Apparently there hasn't been active maintenance since 2016 though and it's officially dead since this year. RIP

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHTML

[-] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago

Remember Konqueror? That's KDE's web browser, which still uses KHTML. I should try it out again and see how it's held up.

[-] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure, but didn't Konqueror switch to qtwebkit at some point? Or was that a different qt-based browser?

[-] clubb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think thats falkon

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 29 points 2 years ago

Pre-Chromium Edge wasn't even that bad. Sure, the engine had its issues and there was probably a bit of Edge-specific JS on some websites, but I'm sure they would've eventually got there.

But seeing that even Microsoft abandoned making their own browser engine, it goes to show how complex it is to make one nowadays and with new web APIs/features coming out every few weeks it feels like, it's almost impossible to keep up.

[-] TAG@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

But seeing that even Microsoft abandoned making their own browser engine, it goes to show how complex it is to make one nowadays and with new web APIs/features coming out every few weeks it feels like, it's almost impossible to keep up.

No, Microsoft is just historically bad at making browsers. It was not until Internet Explorer 7 that they finally implemented HTML 4 and CSS 2 without major glaring bugs.

[-] Espi@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

I have an installer for Opera 12.18, the last one to use their Presto engine. Every once in a while I test it out to see how it has aged.

It's not pretty haha. It barely works.

[-] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I miss pre chromium Opera so much lol, lot of nostalgia

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

My favourite browser, abandoned it when they went chromium. RIP in peace Opera.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago
[-] Hupf@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago
[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

Right but that meme says 'always has been'.

For the majority of current users, that’s the point. For them it always has been.

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