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Evil Ultra trying to split the vote đ
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Being able to vote blue no matter who and going back to brunch with the only change being LGBT flavoured concentration camps and bombs going to to Israel must be nice. Blue MAGA mindset is disgusting
The Democrats are already guilty of genocide, both parties are the greater evil. Why is it not even an option to try and push the Democrats slightly to the left of fascism?
The choice between genocide and slightly less genocide is no choice at all. Thatâs like asking someone to choose between being stabbed in the lung or the heart. Both are likely to kill you. Any reasonable person in that situation would be doing everything in their power to find another way. Arguing that being stabbed in the lung is somehow the rational choice is ridiculous.
The actionable choice has nothing to do with voting. It has everything to do with organizing, be it in your workplace or your community. You have to create structures that can actually hamstring the power of the state to oppress you and those you care about. You can argue these are unrealistic or not actionable but history shows us that this is actually how progress is made. Even in the US the abolitionist movement, labor movement, and the civil rights movement did not win their demands through strategic voting.
If you want to argue that getting stabbed in the lung is more survivable⊠okay sure. But youâre an idiot if you think fighting back and trying to disarm your attacker isnât the rational choice, especially when Americans by and large canât just pick up and leave. Itâs fight or flight but youâre here arguing for people to just accept their demise.
Well said
I'm completely aware that the best thing is organised resistance. But where the fuck is it? America as a whole has done sweet fuck all for the past few years and are just letting their rights be eroded. If people aren't going to actually organise, at the very least, you should be doing that little something that will actually lower suffering. Trump winning the election unquestionably increased suffering, more than any alternative would of.
You are a coward and a moron, or possibly just some sort of fed
Okay that's cool, thanks for accepting this treatment. Now it's election time again, would you like to be stabbed in the heart once, or twice?
Now it's election time again, would you like to be stabbed in the heart twice, or three times?
Three times, or shot in the head?
Shot in the head once, or twice?
You are a frog in boiling water
You aren't asking a big enough question to actually grasp what the lesser evil even is.
The first question you really want to ask is "what is the primary contradiction?" We can discuss what that might be, US hegemony or Western imperialism or neocolonialism, but this will inform our understanding of how we should vote. Only once we identify the primary contradiction should we cast our votes in whatever way will advance the struggle against it.
Let's say we identify US hegemony as the primary contradiction. Does voting for Harris help advance the struggle against US hegemony? No! She would have been a fine steward of the empire, if she was president the hegemon would be in better shape than it is under Trump and the struggle against it would be even harder.
Trump is wrecking the empire, and in light of this, Trump winning is actually a lesser evil. What we see under Trump is the US pulling back from all of its soft-power while threatening its own allies. Yes, it has become more violent, but the violence isn't a sign of strength. The US is in a weaker position than it has ever been in my life. All is chaos under heaven, the situation is excellent.
But, if Trump winning was the lesser evil, does that mean we vote for Trump? Also no! It's important for him to not actually ever be popular within the US, because that also erodes his own legitimacy among the US population and makes the US itself harder to govern. The fact that he "won" with 49.9% of the vote isn't the best outcome, better would be losing the popular vote again, but it's still good because forcing USAmericans to confront the weakness of their elections also weakens its position as the hegemon. They look at their own elections, look at Trump winning twice without ever getting a majority, and ask "do we live in a democracy?"
(The answer is no by the way.)
His unpopularity is why there was an uprising against ICE in Minnesota. There wouldn't even be protests against ICE if Harris was president, and there weren't under Biden despite him deporting more than Trump in his first term, but under Trump people can easily see what they have always been: colonial occupation troops. Under Democrats the streets are empty, under Trump the people fight back. The BLM uprisings happened under Trump, but it was Bill Clinton that gave us the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 to fill the prisons with Black people. This has to be factored in when we ask what the lesser evil is.
They're both great evils, so identifying the primary contradiction is the only way we can identify what is to be done.
Notably, this is not accelerationism. The goal here isn't to make things worse so they get better. The goal is to make the US empire weaker, because we have identified US hegemony as the primary contradiction and that's what we are struggling against. Revolutionary defeatism, in other words.
The lesser evil is actually a mass armed uprising, but you privileged fascists-in-denial reject that course out of hand because it might personally inconvenience you, and would rather knowingly support Holocaust 2 than lift a finger for humanity.
You guys always cope any acknowledgement of what's gonna have to be done with "I will not stop caping for genocide until you provide me your exact actionable information plus detailed plans for insurrection" ok officer, would you prefer a pdf or a text document?
Lets be real, I could give you every detail and you would still look for reasons to decide it pales in comparison to your strategy of uh...going 99% Hitler to win elections and still losing.
Join your local communist party and start organizing with your neighborhood like the rest of us, dude. I promise it's less scary when you're not alone. As it stands, you chose evil over courage.
Yeah. That was unfair. You won't lift a finger to defy genocide under any circumstances whatsoever.
I would if there was something I could actually do that would actually make a difference. But again, no one with your view will provide an actual realistic actionable plan.
You don't need a plan to continue supporting the genocidal status quo.
No matter how you spin there's an obvious worse option because the alternative (including resigning to vote) includes that and more.
Obviously there should be a straight up better option that doesn't include that but you've gotta pick the best option out of those you're dealt. A small step towards good, even if just a side step is better than leaping head first into the maw of evil. Something your votes do give you some agency over.
If genocide is bipartisan, the lesser evil is whichever will collapse the US the fastest.
That and more being shown in the media
The actual imperial policy doesn't change.